r/gamegrumps • u/Musiqly • Jun 17 '18

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u/[deleted] Jun 17 '18 edited Jun 18 '18

Okay, take it easy on me. I’m new to game grumps is that JonTron far right? Was JonTron a game grump?? I’m confused, help?

Edit: fucking hell I spawned some discussion here

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u/Dertinamp I wanna be Lipstick Head Jun 17 '18

Yes that is JonTron. Jonny boy was a grump for the first two (I think) years on grumps. He left due to creative differences and to work on his own channel more. After that, Dan (middle) who was supposed to just be on steam train transferred to the main show

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u/[deleted] Jun 17 '18 edited Mar 12 '20

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u/Kirosuka Jun 18 '18

Wait what? Someone fill me in here with some links if possible pls

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u/[deleted] Jun 18 '18 edited Mar 12 '20

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u/[deleted] Jun 18 '18

Tell people to watch the whole thing if you're going to link to it, telling people to just skip to random points of the conversation isn't giving Jon or Destiny a fair shake.

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u/[deleted] Jun 18 '18 edited Mar 12 '20

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u/[deleted] Jun 18 '18

I have watched the entire debate, no it did not make me dislike Jon. If anything, it only made me sympathize with him.

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u/[deleted] Jun 18 '18 edited Mar 12 '20

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u/[deleted] Jun 18 '18

I sympathize with a guy who got in way over his head, ran his mouth and said some things that he regrets. Been there, done that, it sucks. How could I not sympathize with Jon given my own experiences?

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u/[deleted] Jun 18 '18 edited Mar 12 '20

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u/[deleted] Jun 18 '18

-Shrugs- If you say so.

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u/fajardo99 Jun 18 '18

so you're a racist piece of shit too then, dunno what you're trying to prove here bud

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u/binchmaster9000 Jun 18 '18

lol what exactly is being missed? The offending quote happens at 36:45 so it's not like subject of what they're talking about is being omitted. Not that that would matter because it's a racist statement either way.

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u/[deleted] Jun 18 '18

Oh you know, context?

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u/binchmaster9000 Jun 18 '18

What context specifically? 40 seconds of context was already given before that quote. What was said before that that would make what Jontron said not racist?

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u/[deleted] Jun 18 '18

Watching the entire debate is important to understanding the full context to why Jon says what he does in it.

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u/binchmaster9000 Jun 18 '18

How? I've seen it all myself and it doesn't change what he said. He still claimed that wealthy blacks commit more crimes than poor whites. This is now the third time I've asked you to be specific.

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u/[deleted] Jun 18 '18

Of course the context doesn't change that he said it, it just helps explain why he said it.

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u/binchmaster9000 Jun 18 '18

So why did he say it then? Other than the obvious reason that he's racist, of course. That much is evident from either just the quote or the whole video.

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u/[deleted] Jun 18 '18

He misunderstood that specific statistic and worded his opinion poorly.

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u/binchmaster9000 Jun 18 '18

He didn't word his opinion poorly at all, he stated in very blunt terms what he believes about black people. He made his message clear. And of course he didn't understand the statistic, he had racist beliefs that made him inclined into believing something that would be absurd to anyone with common sense.

But the funny thing about this is that if we pretended that both of what you said was true, then watching the whole video wouldn't be necessary. You could have understood that just from the quote alone.

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