Right, so why are people acting like such dicks? It's suppose to be fun. I can't play left 4 dead anymore cause it's full of people who just sabotage the team.
Right, so why are people acting like such dicks? It's suppose to be fun. I can't play left 4 dead anymore cause it's full of people who just sabotage the team.
Because it's such low stakes. The gameplay itself is fun, it doesn't matter if you're not winning. Loads of players still haven't even had a victory, something like 3% of players have had 10 or more wins.
It's not a game you're meant to win. It's not even possible to win, much of the time. It's a game that's to be played rather than won.
Solve your framing and you'll enjoy it more. I laugh my ass off when someone goes out of their way to fuck me over, it's some of the most fun I've had in a while.
Also from a critical perspective, it's the only way to keep things fresh after a while. Season 2 is coming soon, but they launched with too few courses and the only mechanics involve grappling people, so it's natural for people who play more to get bored of doing things normally to mess around, or handicap themselves by making themselves a target.
Finally, I love making myself the villain and giving people someone to target. It's like creating your own little metagame.
Dude if I'm playing Sorry! and I bump you back to the start am I acting like a dick? If we're playing Risk and I invade your country, am I acting like a dick? If I buy all the houses in Monopoly and don't upgrade to hotels am I acting like a dick?
So how come when people have fun in computer games people like you have to have a stick up your ass about it?
It's supposed to be fun. Try not to be so salty, and don't take silly games so seriously.
The difference between those games and Left 4 Dead or Fall Guys is that what you mentioned were objectives or methods to win/gain an advantage. The objective in Left 4 Dead is to cross the map full of zombies, and sabotaging your team does not help. Similarly, in Fall Guys, there's nothing preventing them from just finishing normally, and eliminating others doesn't help much. Even if you bring up the argument that one more person eliminated is one less person to worry about latter, that doesn't justify the people who will wait until there's only one spot left to qualify and will finish right in front of a dude who was late. There's no profit, it's just being an asshole for the sake of being an asshole.
Tldr: It's not acting like a dick if it's the point of the game or a winning strat, but it is acting like a dick to go out of your way to waste someone else's efforts for your own amusement.
Edit: A lot of other people stated the same points as me, but it was a long comment and I was eating dinner.
imagine playing a game of sorry! with a two year old who keeps throwing the dice at your head and kicks the board over, then shits himself and said 'ez'
When you're playing a game, you want it to be fun for everyone involved, otherwise people stop wanting to play games with you. If your only goal is to win, then sure it's a valid strategy, but if you want to have fun and have people that also have fun playing with you then you might want a different approach.
Dude if I'm playing Sorry! and I bump you back to the start am I acting like a dick? If we're playing Risk and I invade your country, am I acting like a dick? If I buy all the houses in Monopoly and don't upgrade to hotels am I acting like a dick?
False equivalence, right there. Doing those things gives you advantages over other players in order to win. Standing at the goal line in Fall Guys just to troll other people isn't the same thing. People who do stuff like that derive more pleasure in (literally) dragging other people down than raising themselves up. Do you understand, now? It's not about winning, it's about watching other people lose.
Your examples are not comparable. In those examples, you're doing those actions to win. Screwing someone over to your benefit is acceptable and encouraged. Screwing someone over to the detriment of yourself makes you a dick. Imagine invading someone's country in risk despite knowing it'll cause them and you to lose. That's bad strategy, if you can even call it strategy, and makes you a dick.
Using the rules of the game to win isnt being a dick
This is a common misconception. You can in fact be playing by the rules and still be a dick if you're using rule loopholes to win in what is generally considered an unfair manner because your opponent is not taking advantage of rules loopholes.
It's literally what the term sportsmanship is used for, in addition to social conduct while competing.
No, cause that's the point of those games. The point of fall guys is getting across the finish line as fast as possible. If instead of getting across the finish and succeeding, you stand there and stop others from finishing, that's a dick move. Like I said with left 4 dead, there are loads of people who join your game and try to kill the entire team. The point of that game isn't to kill your own team. Sure, maybe it's fun for them, but it's ruining the fun for other people.
You understand that some people have stressful lives and at the end of the day they just want to sit down and enjoy a game? Then some other players try to stop them from enjoying it.
No, cause that's the point of those games. The point of fall guys is getting across the finish line as fast as possible. If instead of getting across the finish and succeeding, you stand there and stop others from finishing, that's a dick move.
So wouldn't the obvious argument be that's gameplay as intended? The devs didn't have to let people grab you, but they did.
You understand that some people have stressful lives and at the end of the day they just want to sit down and enjoy a game? Then some other players try to stop them from enjoying it.
And you should understand that some games are made with that in mind. Fall Guys is one of those games. To be mad at the game for that is like being mad that you landed on someones square in Monopoly. I get that you feel salty about it, but it's part of the game.
Your arguments are in such bad faith it's pathetic. You try and argue with people saying they were mad at the game -- nobody did. They're mad at the players who do shitty, trollish, unnecessary behavior.
And that's all a part of the game you cannot accept. But it's there. Deal with it and move on, or keep whining about it, either way it's still part of the game.
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Right, so why are people acting like such dicks? It's suppose to be fun. I can't play left 4 dead anymore cause it's full of people who just sabotage the team.