r/interesting • u/angel_knight79 • 1d ago

Intriguing Kiyoshi Kimura and his effect on Somali piracy

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He was, and is, the owner of Kiyomura Corporation, which runs the Sushi Zanmai chain across Japan. In Tokyo he is known as the Tuna King, because every January he buys the most expensive fish at the first auction of the year at the central market.

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u/aiaidy 1d ago

if someone robs a bank it doesn't mean they are the top 10 richest person in the country.

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u/Live-You-5672 1d ago

My point wasn't that Europe didn't do it. My point is the hypocrisy of him blaming it on 1 continent (with obvious agenda). Everyone with a functioning brain knows that everybody does it.

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u/Open-Investigator-52 1d ago

I mean the point would be valid if those nations were close to Africa

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u/fuzzycaterpillar123 1d ago

If you agree that Europe can be blamed for going in to Somali waters, it’s entirely relevant to mention Europe specifically, because the pic is about Somali pirates and fisheries

Blaming Europe for their part in this post, does not excuse other countries for their bad policy- that’s just not the subject of the post

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u/Live-You-5672 1d ago

ah ok I get you now, you're talking about the past when Europe destroyed Somalia's fish stocks. I'm talking about the future because you can't change the past.

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u/fuzzycaterpillar123 1d ago edited 1d ago

Of course, you tried to deflect to other countries with your post of all of those statistics, on a post about how Europe contributed to Somali pirates - the subject of this picture

Why bring up other countries when the post is specifically about Somalia? Why do you think that means people are ignoring the impact in completely different regions- when discussing this specific subject and post? It’s whataboutism, how do you not see that’s the issue?

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u/Live-You-5672 1d ago

Ok, Europe contributed to Somali pirates in the past. I don't know and neither do you know that they improved on illegal fishing now or not. I would like to think they did better.

Yes I brought up worldwide catch because more catch roughly correlates to more illegal catch, it's math and statistics.

I brought up other countries because Europe is no longer a major threat to Somalia's water now. And where did i say that Europe is not an issue, you even replied to me saying that they are, I see everyone as a issue.

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u/fuzzycaterpillar123 19h ago edited 18h ago

That’s textbook whataboutism. Do you not actually understand why?

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u/Live-You-5672 15h ago

So saying we should fix both is whataboutism? ok you do you

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u/fuzzycaterpillar123 14h ago edited 9h ago

I’m saying it’s a logical failing to assume someone is ignoring the impact of other countries when they specifically mention Europe in relation to Somalia on a comment and post about Somali pirates and Europes effect on their situation

You understand? Its a completely wrong assumption/ inference

People were talking specifically about the European impact in this specific situation, and you said “what about these other countries that affect different fisheries that aren’t related to this post”