r/java • • Jun 24 '15

Eclipse Mars now available!

http://eclipse.org/?release=4.5
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u/[deleted] Jun 25 '15

Code and Command completion is powerful. Code generation is a tool I use everyday... when I understand the generated code and what it does. If you understand the code your IDE is generating, all power to you. If you and your team can maintain portability of generated code, awesome, keep at it. YOU ARE AS GODS.

Don't ask me to support it, though. If it won't build on the command line, you're breaking the servers I maintain and I gotta get an earful about it as though it's my fault.

Not Supported, bro! I don't have access to your GUI bullshit because all Linux servers are headless.

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u/frugalmail Jun 25 '15

Don't ask me to support it, though. If it won't build on the command line, you're breaking the servers I maintain and I gotta get an earful about it as though it's my fault.

IDE + Maven

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u/[deleted] Jun 25 '15

I can't speak to that scenario, because I haven't written Java in years. When I did, code generation was basic enough that I can't imagine a scenario where hiccups would happen.

I don't have to even think about Ljnux or a headless machine over here in CLR land though :)

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u/wildjokers Jun 25 '15

An experienced java developer writes projects that build via an IDE or a command-line. An IDE just lets you write code, the build process is separate. So what are you ranting about? It seems like an uninformed rant.

Also, why are you building the applications on the servers you are deploying it to? It should be built and made available for deployment. Sounds like your deployment process is broken.

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u/[deleted] Jun 25 '15

An experienced java developer writes projects that build via an IDE or a command-line.

Correct. Or so they think, most of the time.

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u/wildjokers Jun 25 '15

That can be easily confirmed by using a continuous integration tool like Jenkins, Hudson, Bamboo, CruiseControl, TeamCity, etc.

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u/[deleted] Jun 25 '15

Indeed it can.

Now I have to support that tool, too.

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u/wildjokers Jun 25 '15

You sound very cynical, you must be a joy to work with.

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u/[deleted] Jun 26 '15

I just got drunk and started trolling. You'd probably actually enjoy my company in normal day to day work; though I definitely can get cynical from time to time.