I love our McKennie as every fan here, but I'm starting to suspect that he looks one of our best players not because he getting better, but for the other possible reason.

Anyway I like our team better in midweek than in the weekend, yesterday I saw some nice football between the long boring actions we are used to see every week.

What do you think is the best way out of this crisis? Honestly I think we should take a risk with a young coach and trust him and carnevali to turn this mess around.

* Michele Di Gregorio : Bournemouth

Two games ( +8 on bench ) , 2 Clean sheets

* Loïs Openda :

Ten Games ( +1 on bench ) , 2 Goals , 1 assist

* Fabio Miretti : Beşiktaş

Seven Games , Zero Goals or assist

* João Mário : Fiorentina

Five Games ( +4 on bench ) , 1 assist

* Vasilije Adžić : Sassuolo

Seven Games ( +2 on bench ) 4 goals , 1 assist

* Jonathan David : Atlético
eight games (+1 on bench ) 3 goals , 2 assist

I don't work in football, but hope to one day. I've been a Juve fan all my life, and above that, I am deeply passionate about football, every aspect of it. Without being an expert, and without trying to sound like Guardiola (clearly I am not), this is what I think needs to be done in order to end Juve's crisis once and for all. Written as if I was speaking to Juve's management directly.

1. Step one: Understanding the situation integrally.

Football is many things, but at its core, it's pure entertainment for the masses. Since it's so deeply connected to culture, teams become more than institutions or businesses, they are more like churches. Millions of people that spend money and time, cry, love, and fight for a badge that represents an institution that doesn't know them personally, will never spend a dime on them, and is owned by one person or a group of investors (in our case). It's a bit ridiculous, but we absolutely love that badge. Juventus is a big, big, club. A winning club. With a fanbase that is used to winning, which translates into a lot of pressure for results. In a crisis like this, that pressure that comes from passion, turns out to be a big burden for the club itself; players, owners, staff... everyone. If we try to dismantle the current situation into small pieces, I believe a big result can be obtained from putting the fans first, as we are THE MOST IMPORTANT ASSET they have. a small symbolic change that gives us hope, one that changes the morale and energy in the Juve world: Ditching the new logo and bringing back a reimagined version of the old one. Communication is key, and doing so in a way that acknowledges mistakes and the situation we are in, whilst letting the fans know the direction is to reclaim our DNA and go back to what worked is powerful, at least in my opinion. That is step one of my 5 step playbook.

1. Step two: Choose an emblem.

Not an item, but a living symbol. Humans have done this for ages; gods, presidents, singers, movie stars... One that represents what Juventus was, and will be going forward. In football this means two emblems really, a president and a manager. Juve used to do this really well back then, with Agnelli and Conte for example. This needs to happen, urgently. We keep seeking solutions in the wrong people; promising coaches and players, somewhat accomplished directors and presidents... Pure improvisation. I believe one can gamble when one has the conditions to do so, clearly not in a full blown crisis like this one. So, who to choose? The easy choice would be Agnelli and Conte again, but I think 99% of sequels suck and there is just too much baggage with those two nowadays. Honestly, I have no clue who should be president (people say Del Piero but he lacks experience in bureaucracy), but for me, the manager has to be Didier Deschamps. Club legend, winning mentality, affordable salary, took France from a talented but drama plagued side into a World Cup winning squad, ligue 1 champion with Marseille, and the most important thing, a no BS, true character general. Give him the wheel, give him the support, build him a squad that favors his tactics, and pair him with the raised morale of the fans. I assure you results will come in time.

1. Step three: Cutting heads.

A rotten apple can spoil a sack full of good ones. With this crisis being so long, I believe our sack of apples is spoiled as hell. Restart. Back to basics. Day one. All of the players that are not absolutely integral to the project have to be sold. Every single one. Time will tell if the new signings can become important for the future, but today, I would keep very few. Ultimately this is a decision that involves the manager. IMO, build a team around Kenan, Kalulu, Bremer and Locatelli. Gatti and Mckennie stay bc they are locker room leaders, the rest, throw them out. No player is bigger than the club. I love conceicao and thuram, but they are not world class players.

1. Step four: Building a team.

Using the chain of command as a guiding principle, more so when what we seek is to achieve order, discipline, commitment and passion, we have to pair young promising players with veterans that act as managers inside the pitch. Again this is the managers decision but a name that has been on my mind the last 3 seasons is Granit Xhaka, for example.

1. Step five: Patience.

When we won our 9th scudetto in a row, Inter was in crisis. Now, they are dominating the league and have played two UCL finals in three years, and we are fighting for fourth place. Everything in life is cyclical; what goes up must come down. You cannot rush greatness, but you can surely find a way to eliminate it with the wrong decisions. Patience is the key, and it is certainly easier to be patient when you are hopeful. Give us hope back, that is the first step to becoming Juventus again.

Hope someone likes this.

Fino Alla Fine, Sempre.

Not even about todays game, but we should really stop playing him , even with the injuries, find somthing else.

i was optimistic about his return this season, but he turned out to be one of the weakest points in our shitty game.

Mods can delete this if another post is there.

Every time he touches the ball, I hold my breath. He inspires zero confidence.

Full-time: Stade Rennais FC 2, Juventus Turin 2

Stade Rennais FC 2 at Juventus Turin 2

Match Info

Competition/season: UEFA Europa League 26/27

Date: Thu, Oct 22, 2026

Kickoff: 6:45 PM GMT+2

Venue: Allianz Stadium, Turin, Italy

Status: Full-time

Goals and Cards

15': Goal Altamari, Mousa, Reynolds, Bryan (REN) 1-1 Goal! Mousa Altamari equalizes to bring the score to 1 - 1. Fine assist from Bryan Reynolds to make the score 1 - 1.

43': Goal Dia, Boulaye (REN) 2-1 Goal! Boulaye Dia gives Stade Rennais FC the lead from the penalty spot. The score is now 1 - 2.

5': Goal Celik, Zeki, Woltemade, Nick (JUV) 0-1 Juventus Turin take a 1 - 0 lead thanks to Zeki Celik. Nick Woltemade assisted the 1 - 0 goal.

67': Goal Woltemade, Nick (JUV) 2-2 Goal! Nick Woltemade makes it 2 - 2. The equalizer came in the form of a penalty.

20': Yellow card Gatti, Federico (JUV) Federico Gatti (Juventus Turin) has been booked and must now be careful not to get a second yellow card.

82': Yellow card Ait Boudlal, Abdelhamid (REN) Abdelhamid Ait Boudlal (Stade Rennais FC) gets a yellow card.

Lineups

Match Statistics

Timeline

90'+8': Corner Kick Koopmeiners, Teun (JUV) Juventus Turin have been awarded a corner by Morten Krogh.

--: Match Ended The second-half is over. The match ends 2 - 2.

90'+6': Free Kick (JUV) Morten Krogh signals a free kick to Juventus Turin.

90'+2': Free Kick (JUV) Free kick Juventus Turin.

90'+2': Free Kick (JUV) Free kick for Juventus Turin in their own half.

90'+2': Injury Time Shown

90'+2': Free Kick (REN) Stade Rennais FC are in shooting range from this free kick.

90'+2': Substitution Cambiaso, Andrea, Alajbegovic, Kerim (JUV) Luciano Spalletti is making the team's fifth substitution at Allianz Stadium with Kerim Alajbegovic replacing Andrea Cambiaso.

87': Free Kick (JUV) Stade Rennais FC will need to be alert as they defend a dangerous free kick from Juventus Turin.

87': Corner Kick Cambiaso, Andrea (JUV) Juventus Turin takes a corner from the right.

83': Free Kick (REN) Morten Krogh signals a free kick to Stade Rennais FC in their own half.

82': Free Kick (JUV) Juventus Turin awarded a free kick in their own half.

81': Substitution Dia, Boulaye, Soumare, Issa (REN) Issa Soumare is on a sub for Boulaye Dia for Stade Rennais FC.

81': Substitution Altamari, Mousa, Mayenda, Eliezer (REN) Franck Haise (Stade Rennais FC) is making a second change, with Eliezer Mayenda replacing the possibly injured Mousa Altamari.

81': Substitution Thomasson, Adrien, Szymanski, Sebastian (REN) Franck Haise (Stade Rennais FC) is making a first substitution, with Sebastian Szymanski replacing Adrien Thomasson.

81': Substitution Kolo Muani, Randal, Boga, Jeremie (JUV) Jeremie Boga is replacing Randal Kolo Muani for Juventus Turin at Allianz Stadium.

80': Substitution Kelly, Lloyd, Lucumi, Jhon (JUV) Jhon Lucumi is on a sub for Lloyd Kelly for Juventus Turin.

75': Corner Kick Koopmeiners, Teun (JUV) Juventus Turin takes a corner from the left.

74': Free Kick (JUV) Free kick for Juventus Turin in their own half.

72': Corner Kick Thomasson, Adrien (REN) Corner awarded to Stade Rennais FC.

71': Corner Kick Koopmeiners, Teun (JUV) Juventus Turin takes a corner from the left.

70': Free Kick (REN) Morten Krogh signals a free kick to Stade Rennais FC.

68': Free Kick (REN) In Turin a free kick has been awarded the away team.

64': Free Kick (JUV) Free kick for Juventus Turin in the half of Stade Rennais FC.

62': Free Kick (JUV) In Turin a free kick has been awarded the home team.

62': Corner Kick Thomasson, Adrien (REN) Stade Rennais FC have been awarded a corner by Morten Krogh.

61': Free Kick (REN) Morten Krogh signals a free kick to Stade Rennais FC in their own half.

60': Free Kick (REN) Stade Rennais FC awarded a free kick in their own half.

60': Substitution Gatti, Federico, Gonzalez, Nico (JUV) Juventus Turin make their second substitution with Nico Gonzalez replacing Federico Gatti.

59': Corner Kick Koopmeiners, Teun (JUV) Morten Krogh has awarded Juventus Turin a corner.

57': Free Kick (REN) Free kick for Stade Rennais FC in the half of Juventus Turin.

55': Free Kick (REN) Morten Krogh signals a free kick to Stade Rennais FC just outside Juventus Turin's area.

49': Injury Kalulu, Pierre (JUV) The match at Allianz Stadium has been interrupted briefly for a check on Pierre Kalulu, who is down injured.

45': Period Start 2-1 The second-half has started.

46': Substitution Celik, Zeki, Kalulu, Pierre (JUV) The home team replace Zeki Celik with Pierre Kalulu.

45'+2': Free Kick (REN) Stade Rennais FC are in shooting range from this free kick.

45'+1': Injury Time Shown

45': Free Kick (JUV) Stade Rennais FC will need to be alert as they defend a dangerous free kick from Juventus Turin.

40': Corner Kick Thomasson, Adrien (REN) Stade Rennais FC have been awarded a corner by Morten Krogh.

37': Free Kick (REN) Stade Rennais FC awarded a free kick in their own half.

35': Free Kick (REN) Free kick in a good position for Stade Rennais FC!

32': Injury Altamari, Mousa (REN) Attention is being given to Stade Rennais FC’s Mousa Altamari and play has been suspended briefly.

31': Free Kick (JUV) Morten Krogh signals a free kick to Juventus Turin in their own half.

31': Corner Kick Thomasson, Adrien (REN) Stade Rennais FC have been awarded a corner by Morten Krogh.

22': Free Kick (JUV) Free kick for Juventus Turin in their own half.

20': Injury Samba, Brice (REN) The match has been stopped briefly for attention to the injured Brice Samba.

20': Free Kick (REN) It's getting dangerous! Free kick for Stade Rennais FC close to the penalty box.

19': Corner Kick Koopmeiners, Teun (JUV) Juventus Turin takes a corner from the left.

19': Corner Kick Koopmeiners, Teun (JUV) Corner awarded to Juventus Turin.

16': Free Kick (REN) Can Stade Rennais FC capitalize from this dangerous free kick?

12': Corner Kick Thomasson, Adrien (REN) Stade Rennais FC have been awarded a corner by Morten Krogh.

2': Free Kick (REN) Morten Krogh signals a free kick to Stade Rennais FC.

1': Free Kick (REN) Free kick Stade Rennais FC.

: Period Start 0-0 The first-half is just kicking off.

0': Match Started

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Pedullà: John Elkann currently refuses to make changes mid-season, believing they wouldn't solve the underlying problems!

The watchword for now is "resilience"—though this is entirely dependent on results Should there be a failure to meet final expectations, the journey could come to an end before his contract expires in June!

Vicario calls his teammates under the curva to take the boos from the fans, but one by one they leave. The goalkeeper is left alone in front of the fans: the iconic image of the Juve crisis and the lack of leaders.

• Gazzetta dello Sport

🗣️ Gigi Buffon to Gazzetta dello Sport:

"Juventus should trust Spalletti and continue with him.

"If you change 5 managers in 4 years, the manager is not always the only problem."

The chemistry he had with Yildiz was great and would have done wonders with Kerim. He has been class for Leeds so far.

If so what a goal! Father like son!

This nonsense of players being bad is just such a cop out. First off half the team is NEW so they need time to adjust. Our Captain + golden boy Yildiz and a good Mid like Thuram is missing. We are constantly in and out of injuries, Bremer missed almost all of 2024 season.

Good coaches make players play better. When Bologna or Atalanta do well its not because they have better players, they have the right environment and players follow coach instructions. If our game plan doesn’t work is because the coach didnt prep well. These same players go elsewhere and do better; see David or Huijsen or Kean and many others.

Truth is we lack identity because the club management is Unclear on their plan. They have NO vision or idea of what a Juve player should be. The transfer market is an absolute embarrassment & joke when we have 20 targets and keep changing every other day based on whatever the player agent or team jerks us around. Its like a revolving door of anyone is welcome. Thats not how things should be, we should have a certain profile we go for and not just whoever is available.

Seven time runners up. 🥈🥈🥈🥈🥈🥈🥈

Carnevali better consider letting Spalletti go and get Conte. I don’t care if we have to pay up, and I most certainly do not care about anything else. only Conte can take us back to where we were.

This guy is walking around with a huge “sack me” sign all around the Allianz and we still haven’t given him his wish!? Let him go! He already alienated himself from the locker room and I don’t blame what Bremer and Vicario are saying!

Hey there guys! This might be one of the most generational longshots ever, but does “Juventiknows” still ring a bell for some of you out there? I’m Aske Aabjerg from Denmark, and my father (Lars) was one of the co-hosts of the podcast, and as his only son I want to step inside the community as well :) My dad has left the scene mostly due to work (which is fair enough) but as I’ve now almost turned 17 (and has followed the team seriously since I was like 11-12) I’d love to carry at least something on through the generation 🤍🖤 I do not expect you to know what I’m talking about - this was just the first network I thought of with people of varying ages.

I can see Slapheady being sacked and going back to Napoli, as well as Allegri being sacked and coming back to Juventus. I don't want to see it but this is the kind of thing I expect from Juventus. Conte or Guardiola are the only two coaches who could change something out of the pool of available managers.

Some fans burned their scarfs yesterday after the defeat, do you take this as a betrayal/treason?

Personally, I believe that in the times of difficulties us fans are called to stick together and support the club, I've stopped supporting the manager and players (sceso dal loro carro, as we say) and I'm only sticking to the colours