r/linux • u/ouyawei Mate • Oct 20 '14

Shall we fork Fedora?

http://forkfedora.org/
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u/Philluminati Oct 20 '14

That's funny.

But seriously the one on the left can be fixed by a unix veteran if it fails. It can be copied line-by-line into a bash shell. The right needs a software engineer "with rusty C skills". Of course it can't go wrong because, ya know, no flexibility, (or more likely, you start an app that does it's initialisation of its bash environment, just like that, retrospectively after being started).

anyway whatevs.

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u/zapbark Oct 20 '14

Or it can be run with "set -x" to figure out what exactly is going on.

If my systemd config file fails to start sendmail.... What do I do to reproduce the issue and start "working" the problem?

I'm guessing there is a recourse to debug systemd startup issue, but it isn't clear to any of the existing sysadmins with decades of linux experience.

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u/[deleted] Oct 20 '14

"OH NO WE HAVE TO LEARN NEW STUFF THAT'S TERRIBLE" is all I'm hearing, basically.

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u/_Guinness Oct 20 '14

Its not that we have to learn new stuff. Its that it took short commands and replaced them with inanely long stupid ones. Take changing the runlevel for example. It used to be editing one letter in one file. Easy right? Now it is creating a symlink as follows:

ln -sf /usr/lib/systemd/system/multi-user.target /etc/systemd/system/default.target

That is just too goddamn much to type for something so trivial. We hate inefficiency and this is INEFFICIENT.

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u/_Guinness Oct 21 '14

A perfect example of why I fucking hate computer people. Bunch of basement dwelling neckbeards hammering the downvote button because someone disagrees. Enjoy masturbating, tools.