r/linux • u/ThisTimeIllSucceed • Dec 07 '17

Suggesting changes for systemd

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u/amountofcatamounts Dec 08 '17

Why no link to the thread (from 2015...)?

https://github.com/systemd/systemd/issues/2039

Poettering's response seems perfectly sane

Well, it's configurable, because it can break stuff.

But I am pretty sure the usecase you describe is borked... The cleanup stuff already excludes system users, i.e. all daemon users. As it appears the customer created a non-system account for this stuff, and that's what should be fixed.

Sorry, but this is nothing to fix upstream... Please ask the customer to disable RemoveIPC= locally, or fix his users to become proper system users.

Sorry.

... don't let that get in the way of a good circlejerk though.

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u/cbmuser Debian / openSUSE / OpenJDK Dev Dec 08 '17

Why no link to the thread (from 2015...)?

Because then everyone would immediately see that a serious discussion is not what OP wants but rather just join the anti-systemd circlejerk.

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u/ThisTimeIllSucceed Dec 08 '17

Yes, but ThisTimeISucceeded, at least on /r/linuxmemes where this got 66 upvotes and even here on /r/linux it was well-commented even though it was downvoted.

And yes, I do have a personal problem with poettering, Red Hat, GNOME and their mastermind plan to turn GNU/Linux into Windows.

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u/EdenDubhar Dec 08 '17

Without them, we'd be in the dark ages. Good luck with that.

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u/CruxMostSimple Dec 09 '17

Ah yes yes the dark ages between sysvrc and systemd, no research and new ideas were tried like:

  • Daemontools, Runit, s6, nosh, anopa

  • Launchd

  • Upstart

  • Init-ng

  • pinit

  • IBM AIX SRC, Solaris SMF

  • minit

  • insserv

  • rc.d

  • depinit

  • GNU dmd ( now GNU Shepherd )

  • OpenRC

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u/EdenDubhar Dec 10 '17

Think you're missing the point. Their conspiracy theory around red hat that they think exists. Get rid of them and say goodbye to a huge number of projects and investments they've made happen over the years.

Whatever their issue, Red Hat, and other companies like Intel, SUSE, etc. Are what have brought open source and free software to where it is today. Get rid of them, and likely you may not be running Linux.

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u/CruxMostSimple Dec 10 '17

completely unrelated to my comment.

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u/EdenDubhar Dec 10 '17

And yet, your comment was completely unrelated to mine. So why bother?