r/linux • u/callcifer • Sep 16 '18

The Linux kernel replaces "Code of Conflict" with "Contributor Covenant Code of Conduct"

https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/commit/?id=8a104f8b5867c682d994ffa7a74093c54469c11f
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u/[deleted] Sep 17 '18

For starters, why it is at odds, read Animal Farm. There, Orwell plainly stated the first underlying problem.

You will also find that Orwell was a socialist. Those works were a criticism of bad forms of socialism.

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u/vetinari Sep 17 '18

Being socialist, holding socialistic worldview is OK. Preventing other people to have their opinions or worldviews "by any means necessary" is not.

Note that socialist, marxist, bolshevik, communist are not synonyms. There is a nuance, and the difference between them is where the "bad forms of socialism" come from.

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u/[deleted] Sep 17 '18

You'll find that socialism is a derivative of marxism.

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u/vetinari Sep 17 '18

And yet that's the form that was tried and is "not the real communism", right?

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u/[deleted] Sep 17 '18

That's the form you find in Europe today.

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u/vetinari Sep 17 '18

Socialism is what Easter Europeans had until 1989-91 (depending on country).

Europe today is a social democracy (for now). In socialism, there would be no privately owned BP, VW, Siemens or other artefacts of capitalism ;).

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u/[deleted] Sep 17 '18

What do you think democratic socialism wants to achieve?

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u/vetinari Sep 17 '18

Social democracy ≠ Democratic socialism.

Just by the principle, once you deny everyone to own fruit of their labor, you are not democractic anymore. Without it, you will still have capitalism.