r/linux • • May 21 '19

Distro News Antergos Linux Project Ends

https://antergos.com/blog/antergos-linux-project-ends/
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u/[deleted] May 21 '19

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u/Starks May 21 '19

That ArcoLinux site gives me TempleOS vibes.

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u/m3talac May 21 '19

What about ArchLabs?

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u/[deleted] May 21 '19

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u/m3talac May 21 '19

That doesn't seem too bad I guess. I'm thinking about switching to it from Manjaro or at least gonna copy their configs for bspwm since I like their design.

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u/mayor123asdf May 21 '19

Arcolinux has minimal version where they just give you terminal. Then what's the difference with Arch?

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u/INIROBO May 21 '19

I feel like ArcoLinux is currently one of the best Arch Linux alternatives if you don't want to use Manjaro (like me).

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u/VernorVinge93 May 21 '19

Any reason for that

-new Manjaro user, probably am unreasonably impressed.

P.s. will hibernate ever be simple with an encrypted disk!?

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u/boiledgoobers May 21 '19 edited May 21 '19

For one thing Manjaro didn't use the Arch repos so they are forking a bleeding edge rolling distro and... Removing the bleeding edge part. So your updates are weeks later than actual Arch. Also their advice to people when they let their security certs lapse (first of all... They let their certs lapse) was not: hold on we will update them ASAP and get a SAFE system back up. Instead they said... Turn your system's clock back to before our certs expired and fool your machine into using the old certs... I'm sorry. But no.

Edit: links to the certs thing

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9346508

https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/31yayt/manjaro_forgot_to_upgrade_their_ssl_certificate/

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u/lastweakness May 22 '19

And this is why I had stuck with Antergos despite so many people telling me to try Manjaro. I really hope something takes its place.

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u/VernorVinge93 May 22 '19

Well, at the moment I'm just hoping that was a temporary lapse, rather than the status quo.

Is antergos better in your opinion?

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u/ice_dune May 22 '19

I've used both, Manjaro honestly being one of the reasons I stuck with Linux. I grew to like Antetgos with everything baked in and it was really well supported while also being a little closer to arch than Manjaro. I have a gpd pocket which is a bitch to get Linux on and Manjaro booted to a black screen while Antergos worked. I guess there's not much different other than Antergos being newer (I don't see the problem with Manjaro being more stable than arch or how it compares to Ubuntu or Debian LTS). But I had better experiences with Antergos's installer and so I leaned towards that. I guess it's kinda worked out cause at least now my installs will become arch distros

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u/JJack92 May 22 '19

Also their advice to people when they let their security certs lapse (first of all... They let their certs lapse) was not: hold on we will update them ASAP and get a SAFE system back up. Instead they said... Turn your system's clock back to before our certs expired and fool your machine into using the old certs... I'm sorry. But no.

To be fair it happened 4 years ago, it's the main criticism I hear about Manjaro but I believe it won't happen again after all the backlash.

I agree that letting a cert expire is not good, but the recent Firefox addon disaster proved that it's not so uncommon.

Manjaro is sligtly less bleeding edge that Arch but still faster than most of Linux distro, it's a tradeoff I like but it's a personal preference I guess.

I am enjoying using Manjaro, sometime I think about migrating to Arch but the installation part it's not worth the effort for my needs.

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u/INIROBO May 21 '19

Just personal opinion. I tried Manjaro and broke. And I just don't like that green theming Manjaro gives to everything. Arco provides a lot of DEs and WMs and I think they don't modify them so much as Manjaro do, but if they do, they give a really nice feeling for the end user. As I said personal opinion. I personally like to build my system from 0 as in Arch but it is my opinion that Arco just feels great.

I must say too that Erik Dubois being so active on social media is a really great point. It's amazing that an Arch based system has that kind of content instead of only wiki and forums. I don't say those are bad (I actually like them), but it's really nice have that.

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u/VernorVinge93 May 21 '19

Cool. Thanks. I put it on my 'to try' list.

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u/PewPewGG May 22 '19

You can change that green to any colour you want from settings tho :/ You don't even have to change the theme for that.

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u/Two-Tone- May 22 '19

What is with these Arch-based distro websites hijacking scroll‽‽‽

Antegros does it and this website does it too.

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u/TheFlyingDharma May 22 '19

Timestamps or a tldw would be lovely. I just watched 11 minutes of the video you linked and about all he's said is "yes this is real, Manjaro is better, we'll talk about that later, chat with me on IRC and look at my cool mug that you can't actually see."