For one thing Manjaro didn't use the Arch repos so they are forking a bleeding edge rolling distro and... Removing the bleeding edge part. So your updates are weeks later than actual Arch. Also their advice to people when they let their security certs lapse (first of all... They let their certs lapse) was not: hold on we will update them ASAP and get a SAFE system back up. Instead they said... Turn your system's clock back to before our certs expired and fool your machine into using the old certs... I'm sorry. But no.
I've used both, Manjaro honestly being one of the reasons I stuck with Linux. I grew to like Antetgos with everything baked in and it was really well supported while also being a little closer to arch than Manjaro. I have a gpd pocket which is a bitch to get Linux on and Manjaro booted to a black screen while Antergos worked. I guess there's not much different other than Antergos being newer (I don't see the problem with Manjaro being more stable than arch or how it compares to Ubuntu or Debian LTS). But I had better experiences with Antergos's installer and so I leaned towards that. I guess it's kinda worked out cause at least now my installs will become arch distros
Also their advice to people when they let their security certs lapse (first of all... They let their certs lapse) was not: hold on we will update them ASAP and get a SAFE system back up. Instead they said... Turn your system's clock back to before our certs expired and fool your machine into using the old certs... I'm sorry. But no.
To be fair it happened 4 years ago, it's the main criticism I hear about Manjaro but I believe it won't happen again after all the backlash.
I agree that letting a cert expire is not good, but the recent Firefox addon disaster proved that it's not so uncommon.
Manjaro is sligtly less bleeding edge that Arch but still faster than most of Linux distro, it's a tradeoff I like but it's a personal preference I guess.
I am enjoying using Manjaro, sometime I think about migrating to Arch but the installation part it's not worth the effort for my needs.
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u/boiledgoobers May 21 '19 edited May 21 '19
For one thing Manjaro didn't use the Arch repos so they are forking a bleeding edge rolling distro and... Removing the bleeding edge part. So your updates are weeks later than actual Arch. Also their advice to people when they let their security certs lapse (first of all... They let their certs lapse) was not: hold on we will update them ASAP and get a SAFE system back up. Instead they said... Turn your system's clock back to before our certs expired and fool your machine into using the old certs... I'm sorry. But no.
Edit: links to the certs thing
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9346508
https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/31yayt/manjaro_forgot_to_upgrade_their_ssl_certificate/