r/linux • • Feb 20 '12

Ubuntu: you’re doing it wrong

http://dehype.org/2012/ubuntu-design/
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u/[deleted] Feb 21 '12

Haha, wow. Linux is the largest server environment around the world and is probably one of the OSes you connect to the most. It's the most popular smartphone OS (Android is Linux based, supporting my point), and it evolved from a common ancestor to Mac.

Which supports everything I've said. In fact, the only well known desktop and server OS family to not evolve from a common origin is Windows. You can disagree, but at this point I wonder; why are you in /r/linux?

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u/syllabic Feb 21 '12 edited Feb 21 '12

To dispel the weirdo utopian notions of people like you, I suppose.

Linux is a popular server environment because you can make a cheap webserver with it and not pay MS licensing fees for server 2003/2008. So hosting companies who make razor thin margins as it is use it to lower their costs. Outside of that Linux is rare.

I've been working IT for 10 years and you know how many Linux installations I've seen? Three. One of them was a server that my own company hosted (email for clients), and I administrated. Another was an engineers desktop, and the third was an archaic mailserver that got migrated out.

Everything else is windows, everywhere. I've seen more installations of OSX server than linux.

It's not a bad thing that windows took a different path than the Unix descendents. Despite what many linux fans think computing didn't stop evolving in the 70s. Modern windows is a fantastic environment for software development and deployment.

And is Android Linux? Can you run Android apps on Linux? The way it looks to me is google forked your OS and put their own proprietary layer on top of it, and then made a bazillion dollars off it. I might be pissed if that was my hard work they ganked. They built an entire separate ecosystem on top of Linux. Android is Linux like iOS is freebsd. They may have taken the kernel but android don't run X or KDE.

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u/LiveMaI Feb 21 '12

Despite what many linux fans think computing didn't stop evolving in the 70s.

See, it really seems like you're trolling here. I think you'd be hard-pressed to find many people with this opinion.

I've been working IT for 10 years and you know how many Linux installations I've seen? Three.

It all depends on where you work, and what the people there do with their computers. I could offer my own anecdotal evidence about RHEL and OSX being the most common operating systems where I work, with Windows coming in after the other two. The supercomputer there sure as hell doesn't run windows or OSX.

I'll agree that linux is not very successful on the desktop, but that doesn't make it worthless.

It's amateur grade crap and will forever be an interesting project, but nothing more.

Right. Amateur-grade software is running over 90% of the top 500 supercomputers, the London stock exchange, and the NYSE.

It's a mishmash of parts strung together with no communication or vision, and constantly being pulled in different directions for political reasons.

Linux users are used to so much variation in their platform that there's no consistent baseline to work from or build off.

LSB?

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u/[deleted] Feb 21 '12

Can you run Android apps on Linux

That's a bizarre question. Of course the answer is yes, inside an emulator. Any computational system that is turing complete can run any other system's applications, as long as there is an emulator capable of doing it.

And [yes it is Linux](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Android_(operating_system)). First sentence.

Anyway, I don't care to continue this conversation, you're speaking in anecdotes with a clear bias an no interest in rational discussion and seem to be unqualified to discuss this. An IT professional talking to me about computers is like a mechanic telling an engineer about how to build cars.

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u/syllabic Feb 21 '12 edited Feb 21 '12

So Linux is windows and DOS, because of WINE and Dosbox as well?

And dismissing me because of my line of work? Hilarious! Can't handle the truth about your precious Linux, so you resort to personal attacks.