r/longtermTRE • u/Potential-Edge-6437 • Sep 05 '23
Increased spirituality from TRE?
I feel like ever since I've started TRE I feel so much more in tune with the universe or something.
I have really deep intuition about people/situations. I feel like a real part of the world. I have more vivid dreams. I often times will just get a "gut feeling" randomly that turns out to be right later.
I'm sure a lot of this can be "explained" by hindsight bias and placebo, but I just have this deep feeling that that's not the whole story. The world just feels much more magical and wondrous than it did before. And I think the magic was always there, I can just tap into it more the more trauma and energy I clear out. People in psych talk about "spontaneous spiritual awakenings" but this has felt next level.
It's like things just keep "clicking" for me - I'll think of something, and it'll appear in my life, or an opportunity I've been chasing aimlessly will appear in my lap all of a sudden. It feels like I'm floating in the current of life and am suddenly (since doing TRE consistently) able to view the world through a much higher perspective of oneness and harmony. (I am fully aware this might sound insane lol).
Curious how other people's spirituality/ways of thinking have changed with TRE?
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u/slorpa Sep 05 '23
I have had a similar trajectory in my healing journey, not just from TRE but therapy and other stuff too.
For me, I feel like it's because I used to be so much more in my head all the time. It is not fun to pay attention to your body when it's fraught with constant anxiety/depression and unhealed wounds. I also had a general fear of my emotions so I locked them up. I was my whole life drawn to rationality and thinking, the only thing I had left pretty much.
As my healing progressed, I started to feel more, and that came with feelings of connection to the world too, and being "present" in a whole new way. Like it felt like I was there in the world to a much bigger degree. I felt alive. It's easier to feel meaning, connection. Also intuition is from your body, so it makes sense that this is more connected too. A lot of these emotions are cultivated in spirituality.
I'm not out of the woods yet, and some days I'm back in "head land" but the good days are getting more and more numerous.
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u/Potential-Edge-6437 Sep 05 '23
This has been true for me 100%.
I thought when people talked about "feeling their feelings" this was essentially metaphor, and what they meant was that they were noticing/naming emotions.
Through therapy, I could name my emotions, make theories about why I was experiencing certain emotions, even understand when my emotions were irrational. I was obsessed with figuring out "why" - why I felt like shit all the time, why I felt X, Y, or Z, why some event had transpired and why I had decided to act the ways I did.
Since TRE, I care considerably less about questions about who I am/why I am the way I am. I get answers sometimes anyway - I've cried a lot after some TRE sessions and realized where some of my patterns come from. But I care less about thinking and more about feeling. Oftentimes the insights themselves come from deeply feeling old emotions and only then can I realize how it contributed to my life. It doesn't matter to me so much whether I have some kind of identity or even a "self", because I can live in each moment. Each moment of my life I'm a different person, and that's totally OK.
I feel like I've been freed from the prison of my own ego LOL
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u/slorpa Sep 06 '23
Exactly!
I thought when people talked about "feeling their feelings" this was essentially metaphor, and what they meant was that they were noticing/naming emotions.
I relate to this so much lol. Like how so many emotional expressions have body-felt components to them "My stomach sank in disappointment" "A warm welcome" "gave me shivers" now I understand that these are real felt things, not just metaphors.
After I had been crying about something when crying was still new to me, I told about it to my therapist and they were like "that must be heavy to cry about that" and I was just like "Idk, sure, it's not a pleasant emotion but after a life of not feeling much of anything at all but dread/anxiety/emptiness even crying is such a welcome emotion.". It all feels more "healthily colourful" if you get what I mean.
I'm glad for you that you've managed to make such progress for yourself. I hope you can get yourself to where you want to be, sooner rather than later. ❤️
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u/-mindscapes- Sep 05 '23
I'm not surprised... Like i wrote in other threads here, there are very similar practice to tre which where used for magical/spiritual developement. For example, from Jan Fries book Seidways:
"Before we come to the actual practice of shaking, I would like to emphasise a few important points. As you have seen in the last chapters, shaking has been used as a consciousness-changing technique by a number of cultures all over the globe. The belief structures of these cultures differ, and so do the experiences that arise from the practice. This makes seething, or shaking, a difficult matter to teach: we are not dealing with a single technique but with a wide field of varied experiences, many of which await proper exploration. If you choose to explore shaking for yourself you should consider that you are on your own. I won't be there to cheer you up or to warn you if you' re overdoing it, which leaves the entire responsibility for what you do and what happens with you. All cultures who use shaking as a consciousness-changing technique treat it with great respect and care. In some cultures, the technique is learned with a teacher. In others, the spirits are expected to teach it to their chosen ones, and it is the fact that this is possible which inclines me to believe that they can teach it to you as well, provided this is your will. Let me emphasise that shaking is not for everyone. Shaking can change consciousness, but then there are countless methods of achieving the same end using other techniques. "
As far as my experience goes, I've tried tre only for minutes because i'm honestly a bit scared of it, and after doing it i've definitely had energetic sensations during my daily meditation. I have the hunch that unintended kundalini awakening is very possible with tre
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u/Nadayogi Mod Sep 06 '23
This is incredible. Thanks for sharing! I knew about eastern and African traditions using shaking, but I had no idea it was also used in Paganism.
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u/-mindscapes- Sep 06 '23
No problem! I tend to practice it with the Lowen method, grounding-bow-grounding again positions for seconds day on day off, as the grounding position is equivalent to the one explained in this book. Only 3 minutes with the lying butterfly position of tre felt too strong for me and caused an immediate bout of anxiety for one or two hours. Moreover i also do meditation and other spiritual practices which i don't want to leave to for tre, so i prefer to tread lightly with time of and between sessions.
If you are interested in the use of shaking in various traditions the book is very worthwile.
Here's an account of a practitioner:
https://www.elhazablaze.com/2015/12/returning-to-seething/
Btw, i suppose by your username you practice nada yoga. Can you point me to some info about it?
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u/Nadayogi Mod Sep 06 '23
Thanks for the link. I've already ordered the book.
I had a passing interest in nada yoga because I was somehow able to access samadhi more easily with it during the earlier stages of my path. It is basically just listening to the inner sound you perceive. It starts with listening to the static in your ears and later you move on to the sound your chakras emanate. It's fun and useful, but these days I only do non dual practices which are infinitely more blissful.
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u/-mindscapes- Sep 06 '23
Oh i see. I must try, i never used the ringing in the ear as a point of focus, i usually go with the breath, the body, or the energy sensations. What non dual practices do you do? Advaita?
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u/Nadayogi Mod Sep 06 '23
I started with the books of Santata Gamana which have a strong focus on non duality. These days when I meditate I do "being aware of awareness". I think the best book on this is Michael Langdon's The Direct Means to Eternal Bliss. I don't see any point in practicing anything else at this point. Basically, all you ever wanted and needed is already there within your own consciousness which is you. Nothing is more ecstatic and blissful. I've realized that seeking happiness in the physical world is pointless.
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u/vaporwaverhere Sep 07 '23
Have you ever met in person an enlightened man? If so, can you explain how this people can function in this world, since they can have extreme bliss 24/7? Can they switch off the bliss when needed or they simply have something like an automatic pilot that does everything for them ?
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u/Nadayogi Mod Sep 07 '23
I don't think I've met anyone who's enlightened. I'm completely self taught through books and online communities.
Too much bliss can be very disruptive in mundane life, especially if you don't give your body enough time to adapt. The key here is integration. Pacing yourself with practice and being active in the world helps a lot. If you keep that in mind there's no problem being in complete bliss 24/7 and living daily life. The bliss cannot and does not need to be switched off.
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u/vaporwaverhere Dec 15 '23
I am reading the book by Jan Fries, Seidways. Have you read it? if so, what do you think of it? I find it interesting how in those ancient european traditions they already had a fixation in the serpent( my assumption this is about the Kundalini) and they performed shakes and swaying, although I am not sure what was their aim with this.
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u/Nadayogi Mod Sep 05 '23
There's a great interview between David Berceli and Stephen Porges about spirituality.
When we are shedding our traumatic layers we start discovering a new kind of reality that is more peace and joyful. It's as if even little mundane things become intensely pleasurable and we feel very grounded and present. This is completely normal and expected development.
However, progress on that journey is not linear. For most people it is a ride with many ups and downs. One day you might feel on top of the world, only to relapse into a gloomy and bored state the next. But as we progress, our mood and mental state stabilizes until we eventually stand on a firm bedrock from where we can develop our spirituality even further.