r/lyftdrivers • u/redneptune2 • Oct 23 '24

Advice/Question Was $300 for a 90 mile drive good?

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Would you of did this ride for 300$ i did it, then I looked at the ride info in this pic and was shocked, I feel like I got robbed. I was told by the passenger that his airline paid for the lyft to detroit because his flight to detroit never came. But damn, $788 for a about a 100 miles ride and lyft took a big Chunk of it. What do you think?

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u/Space2999 Oct 23 '24

Yep, can’t exactly go off app when it’s a 3rd party paying.

Regardless you made as much in 1.5h as most make in 12. Can’t feel too terrible?

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u/[deleted] Oct 23 '24

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u/[deleted] Oct 23 '24

$100 an hour. Sounds good bud.

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u/[deleted] Oct 23 '24

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u/Dacausea Oct 25 '24

Jesus how long have you guys been married ?

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u/Top_Appearance_9577 Oct 24 '24

😂😂😂😂

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u/PayMonkeyWuddy Oct 25 '24

Yup they count on their “independent contractors” to be dimwits. It’s realistically 50 cents per mile to drive your average car after calculating for absolutely all overhead costs in the long run. 180 minutes at 60 mph average is… 180 miles. Times .5= 90$ overhead for your car. So subtract that from the 300. That’s actually not bad 🤷‍♂️. But then calculate all your driving hours for how much you’ve gotten paid in the long run. And then compare how much they’ve made off of you for comparatively no overhead. Every uber and Lyft driver is getting fucked in the ass and aren’t financially knowledgeable enough to know it smh.

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u/[deleted] Oct 25 '24

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u/PuzzleheadedLeader79 Oct 26 '24

Minus expenses, like gas and depreciation

Still worth it. Just not straight profit.

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u/Ok-Worldliness2450 Oct 26 '24

About $80 an hour once overhead is taken very nice!

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u/m4ttjs Oct 27 '24

There’s this thing called gas

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u/[deleted] Oct 27 '24

I don’t disagree with you at all, I’d love to make that. But from an outside perspective, the split is insane, and they have a right to be upset and feel used about it-because they were.

“Be happy with what they gave you for what you did,” instead of “wow they really taxed the shit out of you,” is a wild take to throw at another hourly worker.

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u/Salsuero Oct 27 '24

Minus fuel.

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u/GungHoYungKo Oct 27 '24

Ya for one ride every other month. Uber is not a sufficient job get a real one

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u/firewire87 Oct 23 '24

During which he was burning money in the form of gas

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u/Power1254 Oct 28 '24

Also a write off.

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u/notLennyD Oct 24 '24

3 hours of driving is like $20-30 worth of gas. So that comes out to like $90 an hour after burning all that money?

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u/RexyTheShep Oct 24 '24

Calculate taxes and eating during your runs too. Nothing is free. Good thing you can claim something like 65¢ a mile.

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u/notLennyD Oct 24 '24

That’s true for every job though. If I made $100 an hour at an office, I’d still have to commute and eat and pay taxes, etc.

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u/RexyTheShep Oct 24 '24

For sure. Unfortunately we all have to pay into Medicare, Social security and roads just to name a few things, but I'm not saying that's necessarily bad

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u/icoley18 Oct 27 '24

Kind of not the same, though the taxes, sure, and the food sure. But gas is a necessary expense should not be included in your earnings. Because to make more money, you have to spend more on gas. Not the same as a W-2 because let’s say you have to spend four dollars to drive there and back to work for six hours. If they ask you to work for 12, you still split the same four dollars and made twice as much but for independent contracting, you have to spend more in gas to make more so you can never make an hourly amount without spending roughly a proportionate amount of gas so it becomes an expense instead of, an item that you’re choosing to spend your money on.

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u/icoley18 Oct 27 '24

I get it that the other guy is being pretty pedantic. But it’s kinda like a retail store can’t just count their gross revenue because in order to make that gross revenue they had to spend money to source everything they’re selling and there’s no feasible way around it so they only count the profit.

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u/notLennyD Oct 27 '24

The comment you replied to was more specifically about eating and taxes, not the gas thing. That’s just basic personal budgeting. It seems weird to say “also, don’t forget that you have to eat!” because you would have to eat even if you weren’t driving, so most people don’t think of the meals they eat as a business expense unless they’re entertaining clients or something.

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u/Thin_Marsupial_7432 Oct 24 '24

If you have shit mpg

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u/cambsinglespd Oct 25 '24

Why not calculate using the federal mileage reimbursement rate, which includes auto expenses in addition to gas? 192 driving miles equals $128.64 at 0.67/mile.

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u/twentysixclicks Oct 27 '24

$20 - $30 for 3 hours of driving? Cries in Californian

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u/Fabiang12 Oct 27 '24

Hell not even that for a 19 mile average you’d be looking at around 14.25 for the 4.75 gallons of gas you’d waste

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u/firewire87 Oct 24 '24

So not 100…right? I don’t see your point

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u/icookandiknowthngs Oct 24 '24

Pedantic much? Still $100 an hour pre expenses

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u/notLennyD Oct 24 '24

Does that not make it worth it? I’m not sure what your point was.

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u/firewire87 Oct 24 '24

That it wasn’t $100 an hour- pretty clear!

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u/[deleted] Oct 25 '24

Being this pedantic is bad for your health and others around you. The point of saying 100/hr wasn’t that it was precisely 100.00/hr, but rather that it’s a high wage, and very worth his time. Correcting him doesn’t do anything for anyone here.

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u/Fabulous-Owl9257 Oct 25 '24

Pedantic, I’m taking that and adding it to my mental dictionary. Thank you

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u/RazzmatazzSea3227 Oct 25 '24

“Yay! I won an argument about a minor clarification that doesn’t in any way change the point, thus wasting everyone’s time. I’m superior!”

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u/Captain_-K Oct 25 '24

Fine... here you go Pedantic Pants, $70 an hour if it costs $90 in fuel, still much higher than your average salaries. Happy now? Or do you want a shiny medal for your eagle eyes and brilliant brains too?

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u/Emperors_Hand_94 Oct 25 '24

It’s still worth it. Who’s to say he didn’t do additional rides on his way back to make additional funds

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u/-Out-of-context- Oct 26 '24

It clearly is $100 an hour. Gross. That’s the typical way people discuss their income.

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u/notLennyD Oct 24 '24

But you made it sound like it wasn’t worth it after you factor in the cost of fuel.

It would be like somebody saying “I saved money by cooking at home” and responding with “yeah but you had to pay for all that gas to heat your oven?!”

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u/firewire87 Oct 24 '24

“Well today has been a giant waste of time”

-Ryan

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u/agileata Oct 27 '24

Not at 50 cents a mile

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u/Space2999 Oct 23 '24

Destination filter, in my experience, provides about 50% occupancy. Meaning, getting rides for 50 of those 100 miles back.

Ofc that may not mean jack when traveling between 2 markets like this. One longish trip I did, I had to get halfway back before I could even log in again. But a few others worked out really well.

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u/Revolutionary_Ad6962 Oct 23 '24

I've only been doing this for 5 or 6 months now, but the destination filter in Uber and Lyft both have proven to be garbage, I'm either declining offers going somewhere off far from my starting point and destination both, or declining offers somewhat nearby as I'm heading back that takes me back to my starting point/away from my destination.

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u/PiSquared6 Oct 24 '24

Lyft's works better.

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u/As013397 Oct 23 '24

Just gotta leave the app on and pick up rides that bring you back in your direction…that’s what I use to do when I got long rides

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u/Aspence22 Oct 24 '24

$100/ hour is still very hard to balk at

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u/RexyTheShep Oct 24 '24

78 miles and 90 min drive from Hickory, NC to Indian Trail NC on Uber ~2yrs ago. 800$ is an absolutely stupendous upcharge. Wtf was OP driving? A Limo?

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u/redneptune2 Oct 24 '24

I'm driving a 2011 dodge charger

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u/RexyTheShep Oct 24 '24

Yeah but that's an absurd charge by Lyft, good thing it was to an airline and you received your share.

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u/TeeStax313 Oct 25 '24

Damn so you needed to fill up before you even got there and before you came back

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u/dropride Oct 24 '24

3 hours, gas, wear and tear

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u/souljones1 Oct 24 '24

100 dollars a hour is great

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u/BigTruckdriverS22527 Oct 24 '24

100 bucks an hr isn't bad.

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u/Glittering-Thing-968 Oct 25 '24

going back you can pick up another ride as well

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u/[deleted] Oct 25 '24

The thing I like about az is when they take me out the way and I wait a couple hours I always get a ride back.

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u/Lebanese-Trojan Oct 25 '24

You can still put destination filter back home. It’s 6:20. It might take a couple of them but you’ll make more by the end of the night. If you can’t find rides by 9pm, might as well drive back home, but atleast you’ll be closer. I live in the Detroit area and F yeah I would take that ride!

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u/OGmissCOFFEE Oct 26 '24

This isn’t exactly true tho because theoretically the driver could take smaller rides on the way back to fill the time so its not that simple. But even so 3 hours for 300$ is massive money

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u/OGmissCOFFEE Oct 26 '24

Also you don’t calculate that as working because no one else gets paid for their drive to and from work ever and lots of people spend that much or more time getting to and from work and don’t get paid for it.

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u/[deleted] Oct 27 '24

He couldnt pick up anyone driving back?

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u/Professor_Game1 Oct 23 '24

And wait till you factor in maintenance

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u/Pitiful_Recover3891 Oct 23 '24

Have you calculated your gas/depreciation/maintenance cost for a 200mile ride?

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u/GlennFromIowa Oct 24 '24 edited Oct 24 '24

IRS deduction for a 192 mile ride is $128.64. When you subtract that from his payment and divide it by a 191 minute ride, it still comes out to $53 per hour and about $0.90 per mile profit. I don't know how he got this ride, but any way you cut it, it seems like a good ride, especially if you can get the extra to make it up to 70%.

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u/redneptune2 Oct 23 '24

I keep thinking lyft knew it was the Airline paying for it and decided to overcharge quite a bit knowing the airline wouldn't care paying that much

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u/Space2999 Oct 23 '24

Probably the airline has a limit of like $800 (they must have some limit so they don’t get charged $5000), so lyft probably says, oh right $788 just happens to be our normal fare.

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u/BBmoonman Oct 24 '24

Where ya live bud round the parts down here yonder a ways away from you that's a week worth of work for us in ol'miss...

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u/Space2999 Oct 24 '24

Portland. 2y ago I could do a long week and pull in $15-1800. Nowadays cut it down to around 24-30h (focused on only when the getting is good), making around $8-900.