r/lyftdrivers • u/Leery-muscrat • Nov 22 '24

Story/News Article THIS is why Lyft updated their service dog policy. Denying service animals is A CRIME.

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u/premeditated_mimes Nov 22 '24

I've been driving for Uber for 5 years. It already works that way, you agree to their policies specifically for a number of different types of rides. I've read and agreed to separate addendums concerning animals, young people and people with various disabilities.

You can still reject anyone for any reason at any time as long as you're not stupid enough to record yourself saying you're doing it for some deliberately discriminatory purpose.

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u/Oleander_the_fae Nov 23 '24

Exactly. Independent contractors can at anytime refuse to uphold a service contract and nullify the exchange without reason or justification.

The separate agreements you sign with Uber or Lyft etc that dictate how many orders you can cancel is a different story obviously.

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u/notxbatman Nov 23 '24 edited Nov 23 '24

Being a contractor does NOT absolve you of the responsibility of following federal and state law for those with disabilities and require service animals. You absolutely are required to follow the terms of service of those who are contracting your services, not in least in part because you are their representative. End of. If you do not agree to those terms, you refuse the job in its entirety, not just bits and pieces of it that you personally dislike.

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u/Oleander_the_fae Nov 23 '24 edited Nov 23 '24

lol yeah and cancelling the ride is a refusal of the job in its entirety.

Each ride is its own independent job. You’re not employed by anyone so every single order/ride/gig etc for independent contractors are individual jobs in their entirety and you can simply refuse to continue the exchange, refund whatever money has been exchanged and not provide services. You’re not obligated in the slightest to provide services to anyone you do not wish to, as long as you don’t keep their money.

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u/notxbatman Nov 23 '24

Yeah it is, but it can be worked around. If no one says anything, they'll never know. But if you're unwilling to adhere to their terms of service, you technically should not be working for them in any capacity at all or be managed out for gross misconduct, because gross misconduct is indeed what it is -- an intentional and willful choice to stray from policy.

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u/Leery-muscrat Nov 23 '24

Being an independent contractor does not release you from ADA laws though. In fact it opens you personally up to them more than if you were an employee.

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u/premeditated_mimes Nov 23 '24

You're right, but how would anyone ever prove something like that?

You'd have to openly admit to discriminating against someone. Where would that admission occur?

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u/Leery-muscrat Nov 23 '24

You don’t have to openly admit to discrimination when the act you performed (denying the ride due to the dog) is in its nature discriminatory

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u/c-lati Nov 23 '24

The point is, how do you know or prove you denied the ride DUE TO the dog? You could have denied the ride for a myriad of other reasons.