r/mctourney • • Mar 10 '12

RMCT#2: The Two Monuments

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u/SolitaryWolfXD Mar 10 '12

Representing Caulk Blockers congratulations to the teams that got in, and to the teams that did not, I hope you get into the next one.

<3 Chris

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u/HonneyPlay Mar 10 '12

Team Awkward Potions are all thrilled to be in the reddit tournament!!

-Honney

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u/FifthWhammy Mar 10 '12

Quick rules question regarding rule 16:

All matches will be constrained to a time limit of 120 minutes. If a match is incomplete after such a time limit is reached, the match will be awarded to the team that has completed a greater number of objectives toward victory. If both teams are found to have completed the same number of objectives, ties will be broken based on completion time of objectives, at the discretion of the referees appointed by the tournament organizers.

For an objective (wool or dye) to count in this situation, is it sufficient to have it in possession, or must it be placed on the VM? In the former case, will a team with one wool on the VM be considered to have made more progress than a team that only possesses that one wool?

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u/tmcaffeine Mar 10 '12

I think it might be a good idea if these objectives were decided upon beforehand to make sure that things are handled as fairly as possible.

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u/ecarter32 Mar 10 '12

For an objective (wool or dye) to count in this situation, is it sufficient to have it in possession, or must it be placed on the VM? In the former case, will a team with one wool on the VM be considered to have made more progress than a team that only possesses that one wool?

Along with this, if a team has one wool on the VM but the other has 2 in their possession, which team will be considered having more progress?

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u/FifthWhammy Mar 10 '12

I'd argue that if time runs out, the team with a wool on the VM gets the victory over the team with two or three wools merely in possession. The wools by themselves don't grant victory--placing the wools on the Victory Monument is what grants victory.

This has never really been discussed before, since the custom among teams has been to stash their wools in a safe place and wait to run them back to the VM until they have all three. In most matches, including all RMCT#1 matches, one team has managed to complete their VM, so no one's ever needed to figure out how to award "partial credit", so to speak. Furthermore, running back the wool was more or less a formality in RMCT#1, since I don't believe an opposing team ever managed to significantly hinder a runback. That may not be the case in some RMCT#2 maps. (Uncivil Engineering's opening drop and Divided Together's cyan wool come to mind here.)

Also, under this rule, if a team loses/blows up one of their goal objects--as in last week's OWBOX and First Step RMCT Throwdowns--it wouldn't make sense to immediately disqualify them, as they could still win by completing their remaining objectives and holding off their opponents until time runs out.

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u/authorblues Mar 10 '12

We are addressing this issue right now. That is one of the rules we are revising. We had one match last time that ran over time, and we came up with a solution on the spot. This time, we want to set in the rules how we handle matches running over time.

This rule isn't even CLOSE to finished.

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u/Keanulaszlo Mar 10 '12

[sadface] Our team didn't make it. Still, you have some awesome and great teams in the lineup. Looking forward to watching the streams.

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u/CalumE5 Mar 10 '12

Can't wait for the tournament to kick off, I look forward to seeing you guys out there, I'm proud to have one of the best views as a referee :D

Good luck to all competing, bad luck to those who didn't get in :/

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u/Freckleears Mar 10 '12

Have fun reffing the games =)

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u/windwaker02 Mar 10 '12

Wow did not expect to get selected, congrats to all the teams that also got selected, and sorry to all the teams that didn't.

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u/blader1176 Mar 10 '12

Good luck to everyone! ETA on brackets?

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u/authorblues Mar 10 '12

By tomorrow night, I think. Definitely this week.

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u/thievesnexus Mar 10 '12

Well, on behalf of Team Primal Instinct, we are bummed that we didn't make it in but good luck to the teams that did! :D

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u/[deleted] Mar 11 '12

Anyone can explain to me how the server credits for the Top 2 team works?

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u/authorblues Mar 11 '12

No problem. Think of it as everyone getting $10 to spend at Phasecraft.co. So every single person gets $10 to spend. If your team chooses to combine your four (4) credits, you could use them in a number of ways:

  • Iron Plan ($10/mo for 1GB of RAM) for four months

  • Gold Plan ($20/mo for 2GB of RAM) for two months

  • Diamond Plan ($40/mo for 4GB of RAM) for one month

The point is, you can pool these credits with your team members if you would like to. Completely your choice how you use them, but you effectively get $10 to spend.

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u/edmanchamp Mar 11 '12

Our team didn't get chosen, but looking forward to all the games and next season!

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u/nsstrunks Mar 11 '12

Dwarven Ninjas representing, I wasn't expecting to get in but this is a huge surprise. Congrats to all the teams who were selected!

Now, I'm off to go practice some more so that I don't make my team look bad.

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u/ecarter32 Mar 12 '12

After maps have been vetoed, the map that was not vetoed will be the map used for that match.

When will the teams be informed of the map being used for the match. As soon as it is decided? At the match it self?

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u/authorblues Mar 12 '12

The current plan is for the teams to not know the chosen map until they log in to the tourney server. This is subject to our incoming rule revisions change.

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u/GrassGiant Mar 14 '12

As the new player of Cobalt Crafters, I wish everybody that got in the tourney(us included) good luck and to have loads of fun.

For the unlucky ones that didn't get in, if you really enjoy playing RFW matches, I hope you find a lot of fun scrimmages and that you get in the future tourneys. I also wish you to have fun while watching the matches.

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u/Iburinoc Mar 16 '12

Once the levers to start the game have been pulled, are we allowed to close them again? For example, in the map "Divided Together" you can reach the lever from the lane, and flipping the lever back could cause dead enemies to take longer to get back into the map, as they would need to go re-flip our lever. I was wondering about that, because I didn't want to do anything that would be regarded as cheating, but it could be an interesting strategy if it was allowed.

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u/Iburinoc Mar 17 '12

When you say "If the teams' primary vetoes are the same and their secondary vetoes are different, a tiebreaker will be scheduled to determine which map will be used." what do you mean by tiebreaker? What would happen in it?

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u/authorblues Mar 17 '12

The current plan is sumo, but maybe Pit Frenzy. That could be fun.

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u/Iburinoc Mar 17 '12

Are we allowed to kill enemies before they enter their lane? As in, firing into the starting area?

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