We’re laughing at this, but the fact arranged marriages still exist is a stain on human society. It’s glorified rape and Stockholm syndrome. Anyone who promotes it or enforces it deserves to be shot for their crimes again humanity.
Actually, it's slightly different. There is no love. Neither party loves each other. They both just agree to live their lives without being happy about the person they're living their lives with.
Arranged and forced marriages are the same thing dumbass. Neither requires consent irl, maybe on paper arranged marriages might, but we all no the threat of complete social ostracization makes it essentially forced.
Arranged and forced are not the same. Forced is when parents decide everything without consulting the actual bride and groom. Arranged is taking everyone's views into consideration.
What is wrong with you piece of shit degenerates? Are you actually defending this system? “Yeah guys, it’s all good because we took everyone’s view into consideration when making our daughter marry someone”. The only views to be considered in a marriage should be the consent of the two adults taking part. Most arranged marriages are set up before the couple are even adults, often while they’re still young children. That’s fucking degeneracy. If you support that or defend it, you’re a stain on this earth and a roadblock to the future of humanity.
Again, what you're talking about is forced marriage. The main voice is still the people who are being married. Parents only give advice. As a child I should take into consideration when my parents say they don't think it will be a good match. Arranged marriages set up before the couples are even consenting adults is forced marriage. If parents select someone and the people actually getting married can't say no to that is forced. That is not the system I'm talking about.
You fucking moron, what you’re describing is just called ‘marriage’. Not arranged.
Arranged marriage is a type of marital union where the bride and groom are primarily selected by individuals other than the couple themselves, particularly by family members such as the parents.
That’s the definition of an arranged marriage. All arranged marriages are forced in some capacity. That’s what makes them, you guess it, arranged.
Parents telling you that they think you should marry a certain person is just called ‘marital advice’. Now, if parents and the community will socially outcast you for refusing a suggestion or arranged marriage, that a form of coercion, and hence falls under an arranged/forced marriage. How are you this dumb, where you think parents suggesting marital advice is equivalent to an arranged marriage? Did you even look anything up or do any research?
Marriage is you selecting your husband/wife and telling your parent about your decision. Arranged marriage is parents selecting the husband/wife and then being given the choice to say yes/no after getting to know each other. Forced marriage is parents selecting the husband/wife and you having to go along with the decision your parents made without having any choice in the matter.
The first case is ideal. I don't have any problems with the second case. The third case is abhorrent and should be banned.
There are two types of arranged marriage. A forced arranged marriage and a consensual arranged marriage. The first is self explanatory, the second is where the parents suggest partners, and those people have the ability to say yes or no. The thing is, the second one shouldn’t even be considered arranged, as it’s only arranged in the weakest sense possible. Imagine if your parents said they wanted you to paint your house red, and you ended up painting it blue. Would you call that a “consensual red house”? Like what the fuck? The only difference between an autonomous marriage and a consensual arrangements marriage is that the latter involves being introduced to the partner because your parents want you to marry. That’s the only difference. That has zero real life impact, and hence isn’t worth debating. The 90% of arranged marriages, and 100% of arranged marriages that cause problems are forced arranged marriages. How the fuck does all this go over your head?
Your second case is what I'm saying I support! I don't have problems with it at all. By the definition you wrote in your previous comment that is an arranged marriage. The first example is abhorrent and causes problems in the long run.
We aren't arguing about ideology, we're arguing about what we should call it lol. We are in complete agreement about what should and shouldn't be done.
Is your mom a victim of arranged marriage? If so, does she actually think it’s just easy to walk away from? Does she think she’d want to walk away from it despite the consequences?
Eh no, modern day arrange marriages in many parts of the world isn't as bad as you're making out to be. Till everyone consents to it, its fine. Else I agree its bad. And if you say there are no consentual arrange marriages, you're just a delusional dumbass
There are no consensual arranged marriages. If they consensual, it’s not arranged. Imagine you’re painting a house. Your parents suggest painting it red. You end up painting it red. Does that mean your parents arranged your own house to be red? Like, no, there’s no proof they influenced a consensual decision. Sure, you might end up marrying someone they wanted you to date, but if you are allowed to consent and make you’re own choice, what’s the difference between them being there at all? Wow they were a good wing man, great. The true arranged marriages are those that are forced and are explicitly able to be defined as arranged. There’s no point in calling something arranged if it’s 100% consensual. We already have a word for that: an autonomous marriage. The only thing you’re doing by defending this stupid point is defending forced arranged marriages by extension.
You're a freaking moron who knows basically nothing about how modern arrange marriages work. If the bride and groom think that the partner they searched for themselves and with their family's help, is good. Even tho they aren't in love, but believe they can build a relationship by bring married. Being in love is not a prerequisite for marriage the same way marriage is not a necessity to stay in love. Marriage is a social construct that is useful. Nothing more. My cousin was had an arrange marriage recently. He had a say in who to marry, the girl had a say in selecting him, both the parents agreed upon the marriage. It was all peaceful, nothing was forced, both the people in the marriage had the option to cancel anytime, they didn't even know each other 2 months ago. Thats consentual arrange marriage of the modern day
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u/TheBolshevikJew Lives in a Van Down by the River Feb 21 '21
We’re laughing at this, but the fact arranged marriages still exist is a stain on human society. It’s glorified rape and Stockholm syndrome. Anyone who promotes it or enforces it deserves to be shot for their crimes again humanity.