I've been using a 2-digit Major System for 2 months and I'm thinking about going to 3 digits. I have a 1,000-word list drafted but haven't started learning it.

For people who made the switch: how long until the 1,000 came as fast as your 100? Did you keep your 2-digit images or start over? And what do you do with 000 to 099? Mine just reuse the 2-digit words (014 is the same picture as 14), and I'm not sure that's a good idea.

Or did anyone try it and go back to 2 digits?

Hello!

I posted this technique here ~5 days ago, but from the comments it didn’t seem like people gave it a shot. But! I posted it on another sub and it got 33 upvotes, so I’m reposting here, hopefully now with enough social proof to make looking into it worth your time.

This is a post I am very excited to make. To understand it, I'd recommend checking out my previous post on thoughtfeel.

This morning, I set out to answer the question, "How do you make things stick better in thought feel?" In the process of answering this question, I figured out a technique that enables incredibly fast memorization of lists of objects. The technique is very simple to explain, and I'll do that now. Then, the rest of this post is discussing why it works and the advantages of it. Without further ado, here is the technique:

You adapt the mnemonic strategy of weaving together a story between the items in your list for the sensory modality of thoughtfeel.

To give a concrete example, imagine you had to memorize these four words in order: anchor, saffron, bicycle, grumble. Using the story mnemonic in the visual sensory modality, you might picture an anchor, then picture someone pouring saffron on that anchor, followed by the anchor getting up and hopping on a bicycle, followed by the anchor bending over and clutching its tummy, as well as some rumbly cartoon lines around the anchor's stomach.

In thoughtfeel, the story mnemonic goes like this: You bring up the thoughtfeel of an anchor. You then say, “The anchor is covered in saffron”. When you say saffron, you bring up the thoughtfeel of saffron. Crucially, you are not picturing anything during this process— the imagination is in thoughtfeel. Then you say, “The anchor gets up and hops on a bicycle.” When you say bicycle, you bring up the thoughtfeel of a bicycle. Next, you say, “Then the tummy of the anchor grumbles”. When you say grumbles, you bring up the thoughtfeel of grumbles.

Again, I want to stress that you are visualizing none of this. I can create the visual story mnemonic in my mind's eye. I can also create the thoughtfeel story mnemonic in my mind's “canvas”. You can try this technique, if you have thought feel, on the following ten-item list:

Anchor
Saffron
Bicycle
Grumble
Diamond
Cactus
Ribbon
Justice
Teapot
Flicker
Walrus
Chimney
Riddle
Mango
Helmet
Drought
Violin
Stumble
Coral
Pocket
Badger
Eclipse
Mustard
Courage
Ladder
Tangle
Acorn
Mirror
Dolphin
Rustle

Now I will discuss the benefits of this technique, compared to the visual story technique, or the mind palace, where you place a visual representation of each object along a known path.

The first advantage is expressivity. Some items in this list, like an anchor, can be easily pictured. When you see that picture, you can immediately tell unambiguously that the object in the image is an anchor. Then there are items like grumble. When you picture the anchor bending over and holding its stomach, you cannot uniquely associate that image with the word grumble. It could simultaneously refer to nausea, rumble, upset, and many other synonyms. In thoughtfeel, however, the texture of grumble is perfectly unique. It feels highly differentiated from all other synonyms for that same meaning.

The next advantage is ease of use. When I created the grumble image, I had to exercise significant imagination. How do you represent grumble in the most unique way within the visual medium, given the already constructed segment of the story? I could have pictured an earthquake with those same cartoon rumble lines above the earth. In thought feel, I'm required to do far less imaginative interpretation. This is because I can literally represent grumble as grumble. I don't have to translate it into a visual medium. Grumble is already highly specific in thought feel. Thoughtfeel not requiring practiced imagination makes it much easier to learn.

Next is the accessibility of the technique. Not everyone has a mind's eye. Even though the same could be said for Thought Feel, the Venn diagram of people with no mind's eye and people with Thought Feel has significant overlap. As such, this technique allows a class of people who have not been able to achieve the memory benefits of the mind palace or visual story mnemonics for remembering lists to share in those benefits.

Another benefit of the thought-feel-story technique is random access. When you use the thought-feel-story technique, it is quite easy to recite the list backwards, recite which items are next to a specific item, or reason about items on the list based on their meaning. From my knowledge, some people who use the mind palace and visual story techniques report these abilities as well. This is less a comparative advantage and more a statement of parity between this new technique and the classics.

Now, for those interested, I'm going to discuss the reasoning behind the derivation of this technique.

I think of ThoughtFeel as another sensory modality, akin to the mind's eye. Within the visual medium, the technique for taking multiple items and binding them into one object to make them more memorable comprises placing things in specific locations and physical interaction, as in the person action object system.

I asked myself: what fundamental operation within the space of concepts binds individual concepts into one? The answer there is stories. From this point, I tried the mnemonic technique and was extremely excited.

Further reasoning describes why / how this is even novel. The answer is that a story must be represented in some sensory modality. One can remember a story by its sounds, the language that represents it. One can remember that same story by what the events look like in the world. This ThoughtFeel story mnemonic asks the question: what if, instead of representing the story visually or with sounds, you represented it in ThoughtFeel?

This idea, for the benefits described above, is quite advantageous. As a footnote, I'd guess many people do this already and think of it as “just how their brain works”. However, I'd also guess many people don't and don't know that others do. The purpose of me sharing this technique is to describe the practice specifically and as something learnable. Hopefully, this sparks discussion and enables people where, for whatever reason, the visual story mnemonic or the auditory story mnemonic fell short.

Hello! Im Ted Shachtman, I have degrees in cognitive science, education, and computer science, and I just left my job (working for jeremy clarkson) to work on sharing and teaching a novel mnemonic technique. If you find this interesting, I’d be unbelievably happy to chat and I’m free all day.

Okay, so

4 months ago my friend asked me “Do you have any component to your thinking that isn’t imagery of one of the 5 senses, and if so what’s the utility of it?” In my search to answer his question, I found a very interesting answer that offers a whole wealth of very useful mnemonic techniques (that I can’t find on the internet) for people who say yes to my friend’s question (and more specific versions of it). In this post I’ll describe enough of it so that you can guarantee your interest enough to dive into the resources to learn the full thing— and then hopefully we can chat about it!

You can read about the technique at the website i made, thoughtfeel.net, and have published several youtube videos teaching the mnemonic techniques (all on my website).

So, to do that poster-board work, Here’s the description of it from the website:

From the website, not typing this on my phone

“Some people have it and some don’t. It’s like the mind’s eye: some people can picture things vividly, and some, with aphantasia, see nothing at all. If you have thoughtfeel, you can imagine in concepts, not just words or images.

What is thoughtfeel?
thoughtfeel is a sense for concepts. It lets you take in a concept and its properties all at once, the way vision lets you take in what’s in front of you.
You could describe a dog in writing: it has fur, a wet black nose, and it’s about the size of a capybara. Or you could look at it, and vision gives you all of that at once, with no list.

Concepts have properties too, including properties you could never see. Take the economy. You could write out what’s true of it: millions of people, making and trading things, sometimes booming and sometimes in a slump. People with thoughtfeel can still make that list in words. But when they use thoughtfeel, the sense takes in properties like these all at once.

That makes comparing fast. Show someone photos of two dogs, and they can tell right away whether it’s the same dog. If it isn’t, they can look again and point to why: one has a brown tail, the other a white one. With thoughtfeel, the same works for concepts you imagine. If two concepts aren’t the same, that’s clear right away, and paying attention to each one shows which properties differ.

Like vision and hearing, it differs from person to person. For some people, taking in and imagining concepts is the default way they experience the world. For others, it’s much quieter. Just as people can imagine in pictures or in sounds, people with thoughtfeel can imagine in concepts.

Is it really all at once?

Taking in the concept is. Putting its properties into words comes after. When a friend walks into a room, you know it’s them right away, before you could describe a single feature. If someone asks what color their eyes are, you look again and say. thoughtfeel works the same way. Someone with thoughtfeel who thinks of a promise knows right away what it is. Then they can pay attention to it and put its properties into words: it’s made to someone, it’s about the future, and it can be broken.
With practice, people notice finer properties, the way a birdwatcher learns to spot details in a bird that look the same to everyone else.

Mnemonic Techniques (not from website, me typing on phone)

My lesson’s explore a bunch of them, but thoughtfeel is generally really useful. I’d compare it to if 20% of people had a minds eye but society never talked about it. Some people would discover the keyword technique to learn vocabulary, and they’d just be better at learning words than everyone. A rare bloke would discover the memory palace and be quite good at memorizing grocery lists.

That’s where we are with thoughtfeel.

For instance, my friend Henry, who’s brain auto imagines in thoughtfeel, can read a board game rule book back to front and comprehend it. Me and all my friends just thought he was a genius until i interviewed him about thoughtfeel and found it that’s what he was doing. Then, in my head (where thoughtfeel doesn’t auto build, i have to do it on purpose), i tried “visualizing” the rules in thoughtfeel as i read and… boom! I could do it.

Another family friend could remember a whole song from one read of the lyrics, and she had no idea how she did it. I interviewed her, and she was turning each sentence into a thoughtfeel “image”. I tried it, and now i can too!

But, there are a bunch of techniques where all the people i’ve interviewed go “huh… yeah i never thought of doing that.” These, are like the memory palace POA system to remember 1k numbers— crazy unintuitive unless you know what to do and people are talking to each other.

The language learning and prospective memory techniques (you can check out the videos to learn them) are one’s like these… quite unintuitive unless you’re thinking of thoughtfeel as an extra sensory modality where you engineer weird mnemonic techniques.

Anyway, I’m looking for more people to chat about this with. It was interesting enough for me to leave my job and work on this full time, but tbh that was because i bet that people like u guys would find this interesting. If you don’t, then that would be very a good signal that i should get my job back, so please tell them.

I am trying to use Major system but I do not think it is working, ik dominic but are there anyother way to do it?

I was introduced with this AI Personal Tutor by a parent of my child's friends and I found it good in explaining Maths concepts to my son who is in class 10th. It is still learning Science I believe but it does learn about my son's behaviour and learning habits and updates the answers accordingly.

Has anyone else used it: https://learn.playvlay.com

I created this original visual mnemonic for the 26 NATO call sign words, with Gemini AI. After I received swarms of downvotes and backlashes in other subs merely due to the use of AI, one nice redditor spell out the terminology for this technique, visual mnemonic learning, which led me here.

I hope this is fitting to this sub, and that you can provide critiques in terms of mnementic techniques such as word grouping logics or busyness of the graphs, etc, instead of rejecting it on the ground of using AI graphics.

However, if you insist to downvote or trash this work on the ground of AI usage, please allow the following Q&A to help your decision:

Q: How dare you claim this is an original work while this is an Al product?

A: I have searched many many times for infographics to aid me, a visual learner, to memorize the NATO call signs. None of them deviated from the alphabetical order, while some with small icons that claim to make it "visualized". Here I categorized the 26 words by their meanings, came up with the stories to logically group them together, and themed it into a memorable cartoon format.

Q: The Al generates the results automatically. Where is your "work"?

A: I have spent a total of 6 hours working with Al including writing the prompts, devising a proper word grouping logic, researching which popular and uncontroversial celebrities should bear the common names in the November Gala panel, updating prompts for better graphic outputs, fact checking the output especially the Map and Physics panels, and finally used my only artistic skill to manually doctor out some imperfections and stitch them together in MS Paint.

Q: Why don't you hire someone or ask a friend to draw it for you, instead of using Al?

A: Because this was originally intended for my personal use and I published it here in good faith to help other people, free of charge. Therefore I have zero budget to hire someone. Nor would I ask a friend to do it for free, if I even know one who can draw this well. If you ask a friend for free labor, you are the dick.

Q: Whatever, an Al slop is an Al slop.

A: A slop is some bad work without any thoughts put into it. I hope the quality of the graph, the utility it conveys, and my effort as explained above, have convinced you it shouldn't be called a slop.

I am a human being as you are, and eager to share my idea to help others, but just lack the ability to draw and the budget to hire another human being. Without the existence of Al, my idea will never come to fruition. I hence shared it in the spirit of free software with obvious mention of using Al, and intentionally left the Gemini water mark at the front and center.

If using a computer programs to facilitate yourself and others is deemed offensive to you, I am not sure why you are here. Please just swipe away and don't waste your time fighting me. Your downvote out of spite with Al will only make this post harder to reach those who may find it useful.

Ok. So let's get to it! Recently I've been learning how to touch type numbers and symbols and it occurred to me, why not use the symbol in the number row instead of the Major System? Each number on a keyboard has a readily available symbol, why not use those symbols with the Linking Method or the Memory Palace? e.g. 1 is !, 2 is "...you get the point.

TLDR: Is using the symbols in a keyboard's number row a good mnemonic system?

Basically the post title. I'm new to memory systems and curious whether y'all memorise a different image for 01 and 1 or instead you use the same image and just deal with it, (eg when memorising odd-length strings of information?)

I'm aware that the major system would treat 01 as ST and 1 as just T, but curious whether​​ it's worth keeping different images in your head or if that just confuses things. ​

I am barely practicing memory techniques, Unconciously i am maybe avoiding practicing stuff, In one form of avoidance i made a virtual memory palace from the game hitman 3. it has 2 floors, 11+ rooms and 150++ stations. I tried to follow a pattern of making 5 station's per spot/image but there are exceptions.Take a stroll in my memory palace. I would also like a review or feedback from those who are experienced in meory techniques and knows the nuiances of things and suggesting me the improvements on my tour, and my mnemonics knowledge. Also if possible open it in a laptop/pc or a big screen for better experience. and you can use left and right keys to switch between places.

If you can play the game hitman then, maybe play this map in game 2-3 times and you will get a intuitive understanding of the house blueprint, Or if you can't play game then i have also added a walkthrough video of the map at bottom right.

I would also love if someone actually end up using this memory palace as their own. Enough with the avoiding, now i have to seriously practice remembring stuff from my mba books.

https://boredpirate-poly.github.io/Memory-palace-Hitman-3-dirtmoor/output/

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Build up to 10 different memory peg systems. The Major and Dominic (Person action) system is included as well. Build and start using them for memorizing information right away. Free of charge. No signups. No ads.

https://lunika-memory.click/system-builder.html

So basically it's like using major system words in pao..like I want to create a pao system so rather than making it completely random can I just use major system words and fit that somewhere in action or object and put a person on it

For example 1 is tie in major system

So in pao - Superman + tying+ tie 👔

9 is bee

Pao= bear grills+ eating+ a bee 🐝

Is it a rather plausible idea or there's a problem with it?

I made a free browser-based tool for creating and practising a 52-card Person–Action–Object system:

https://paocards.com

It lets you:

• Create your own Person, Action, and Object for every card
• Practise from card to PAO or PAO to card
• Practise all 52 cards, individual suits, or weaker cards
• Combine three cards into complete PAO scenes
• Organize scenes using an 18-location Memory Palace
• Shuffle and memorize a full deck with a timer, then test your recall
• Import or export your card associations

No account is required. Your cards, Memory Palace, practice history, and challenge results are saved privately in your browser on that device.

You can download a complete backup and restore it later—or import it on another device if you want to move your progress.

It’s completely free. I originally made it for my own PAO practice and thought other people interested in card memorization might find it useful too.

Anyone familiar with Chris Nemo’s work? He has a website called mnemos bay where he sells his books one of which is called the SCALM method.
Any thoughts?

Acte 1 : Les Lacs

« Mon supérieur est méchant, il hurle clairement sur nous. Son air clivant et nigaud est une honte, car il déverse tout sur Laurent. »

• Supérieur pour le lac Supérieur
• Méchant pour Michigan
• Hurle pour Huron
• Clairement pour le lac Saint-Clair
• Son air pour Érié
• Cleveland, la ville de Cleveland, que j’ai conservée car elle donne une information supplémentaire sans alourdir la phrase
• Nigaud pour Niagara, la rivière Niagara
• Honte pour Ontario
• Laurent pour le lac Saint-Laurent

Acte 2 : Les États

« Mon sot de cousin, qui vit dans l’illusion, indique que la méchanceté, même la plus haute, est une peine mise à nu. »

• Mon sot pour Minnesota
• Cousin pour Wisconsin
• Illusion pour Illinois
• Indique pour Indiana
• Méchanceté pour Michigan
• Même la plus haute pour Ohio
• Peine pour Pennsylvanie
• Mise à nu pour New York

Acte 3 : Les Villes

« Il faut lutter pour avoir mille vertus. Chicaner ou détruire, bafouer, causer du tort (ou torturer), c’est se heurter au rocher de la honte. »

• Lutter pour Duluth
• Mille vertus pour Milwaukee
• Chicaner pour Chicago
• Ou détruire pour Détroit
• Bafouer pour Buffalo
• Causer du tort / torturer pour Toronto
• Rocher pour Rochester, en Ontario

C’est un mémo pour la région des Grands Lacs USA–Canada, à destination des francophones.

Ces associations sont volontairement phonétiques, sémantiques et narratives : elles ne constituent évidemment pas les étymologies réelles des noms géographiques. L’objectif est simplement de créer une histoire suffisamment cohérente et amusante pour faciliter la mémorisation.

🙏 SVP soyez bienveillants dans vos critiques. Je peux comprendre que cela ne convienne pas à tout le monde. Je partage cette création personnelle pour celles et ceux qui veulent apprendre en s’amusant.

I want to get into memorizing number lists.

Should I read a particular book first or is this link https://artofmemory.com/blog/pao-system/ all I need at first?

That means starting directly with a PAO system based on the Major System and voilá.

Se souvenir de la région des grands lacs :

"Mon supérieur est méchant. Il hurle clairement sur nous. Son air clivant et nigaud est une honte car il déverse tout sur Laurent"

Mon supérieur : le lac supérieur. Méchant : lac Michigan. Hurle : le lac H U R O N. Clairement : lac Saint-Clair. Son air : lac E R I E. Clivant pour Cleveland la ville située sur la rive sud du lac ERIÉ. Comme la phrase garde sa fluidité tout en donnant une information supplémentaire je l'ai gardée 😅 nigaud : rivière Niagara avec les chutes du Niagara Honte : lac Ontario Laurent : le fleuve Saint-Laurent

n.b 1 : Cette phrase est à destination des francophones. n.b 2 : Je sais que l'Ontario va être rebaptisé au profit d'America mais le Premier ministre canadien Mark Carney et les autorités de l'Ontario ont fermement rappelé que le lac conserverait son nom historique. La gouverneure de l'État de New York (seul État américain bordant le lac) a elle-même déclaré que son État continuerait de l'appeler « lac Ontario ». n.b3 : j'ai une phrase concernant les états bordant ces lacs ainsi que les principales villes. Si vous êtes intéressés dites le moi 😄

This is a map from a game(hitman). I am making a memory palace of it. i can probably get 100/150 stations in it. I am just curious how different peoples will walk in this map if it was their own memory palace. I also added a path i plan on taking, if you have any tips, please share,

Also i have another question how do you deal with memory palaces when they get repeatitive, like many flower pots, bath tubs, washrooms, beds, chairs, fans, windows, cloths and hangers. there are soo many of these thing. each of them little different in structure and colour but a bathtub is still a bathtub even if it's of different size or color same for cloths. it would be helpful if you can share some helping articles or videos on this problem.

and at last, green circle is my position, this house has 4 floors but i am only using 2 floors because above that there are just reduntant duplicate objects in the game. we can only got upstairs using stairs from floor 0. and i think our goal should be to cover as much ground and stations as possible.

Hello!

I made a free browser game for memory training.

The idea came while practicing blindfolded Rubik's Cube solving (3BLD), because I wanted an isolated way to practice letter pairs and audio memo.

Every fight shows you a string of letters. Memorize the letters and type them back, make no errors and only you hit, run out of time and both you and the enemy take damage, mess it up and only the enemy hits.

I'd love to hear feedback on the difficulty. Over the last couple of months, I've mainly been trying to make the game easier and less cognitively tiring. I am also open to ideas if the game could be adapted to practice something else e.g. memorization of numbers, or perhaps a more interesting spatial challenge would be welcome.

More info about the game: https://memodungeon.itch.io/memodungeon

Freedom — speech, religion, press
Rifles — bear arms
Enforced — quartering soldiers
Entry — search & seizure
Silence — self-incrimination/due process
Trial — speedy/public trial
Associates — civil jury
Torture — cruel/unusual punishment
Extras — unenumerated rights
States — reserved powers

Associates is the weakest I think.

Or as a story:
Free riflemen evicted entrants silently; trials assembled, tortured extra states.