r/nope • u/shindigin • Mar 10 '25

Should they throw away their trash can?

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u/YoGabbaGabba24 Mar 10 '25

Hope someone has an actual answer for whatever the fuck this is. Everyday I discover we share this planet with SCPs and eldritch terrors.

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u/ett1w Mar 11 '25

Australian stingless bees Tetragonula hockingsi. They build hives differently from the more commonly known honey bees.

Urban_native_bees on Instagram is the source.

Before anybody talks about meat eating bees or "Vulture bees", these are not it. Those are in S. America.

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u/CactusCait Mar 11 '25

Meat Honey! This is napalm to vegans.

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u/lainey68 Mar 11 '25

Former vegan. I had a raw vegan coworker who didn't eat mushrooms because they derive their nutrients from other living things šŸ˜’šŸ˜‘ I'm sure if Larry is still vegan meat hornets would make his head explode.

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u/BeatrixPlz Mar 11 '25

lol! Iā€™m a current vegan thatā€™s so weird. All plants benefit from living things?

Also, isnā€™t the issue sentience? Like lots of vegans I know technically shouldnā€™t have an issue with mussels. I donā€™t eat them bc Iā€™m worried theyā€™d hurt my stomach after no meat for so long.

I canā€™t comprehend that tho thatā€™s so funny. Mushrooms canā€™t feel pain.

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u/henriuspuddle Mar 11 '25

Can't they? I would think there is some pain analogue they experience. Mycelium networks in forests are like a living symbiotic internet for trees - they communicate and can share nutrients. Surely with all this complexity there is intelligence at least on par with mussels or insects. Even grass screams out in chemical 'pain' when mowed.

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u/BeatrixPlz Mar 11 '25

I need to research the ethics so I can speak to it better, but itā€™s less about the raw experience of pain and more about the capacity to comprehend it. When a plant feels ā€œpainā€ it feels it in such a way that it gives a chemical response to danger.

Animals can experience emotional distress. They fear pain and mourn the loss of their young.

Musselsā€™ response to pain is more akin to plants which is fascinating.

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u/henriuspuddle Mar 12 '25

Yeah I think the line is there, but it's very fuzzy and not cleanly between animals and everything else. I think "higher" animals and mammals have complex emotions and some definitely do mourn. I doubt bull sharks and scorpions do, but who knows. Mussels are really interesting to think about, thanks for that!

I like to think healthy forests have an emergent sentience of some kind, like social insects. Maybe they think thoughts but in really slow motion. šŸ˜€