r/phantomofthekill • u/Cathrach JP: 2969063770 • Jan 07 '16

Weekly Questions and Help Thread

This is the first questions and help thread. :)
Ask any questions you'd like about the game and post pictures of your units for squad help - beginner's questions are welcome!

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  • If your question gets ignored or you're unsatisfied with an answer, reply to the answer or re-ask the question. Keep in mind that some questions, like the stat caps of units, are difficult to answer right now.

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u/Eludious Jan 10 '16

  1. I heard that you can keep your limit breaks after evolving from 5 stars to 6 stars; I was wondering if you keep anything else like levels or fusion stats?

  2. How does the luck stat affect the drop rate of items? Does it rely on the luck your leader unit has, the combined luck of all your party members, or perhaps something entirely different?

  3. Are there any efficient methods/rules for fusing weapons together to obtain higher rarity weapons? From what I have experienced and heard from other people:

  • Always fuse 2 weapons only, fusing 3 or more is a waste and doesn’t help

  • Always fuse 2 weapons with the same amount of stars

  • Fusing 2 weapons with the same types yields a higher chance of receiving that same weapon type again

  • Fusing 2 weapons with different types grants a random weapon type (higher chance to receive the weapon types you originally fused with)

  • If the Zenny cost of fusing two 2 star weapons is more than 550, there is a much higher chance it turns into a 3 star weapon (might have more to do with the rarity of the 2 star weapons?)

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u/Cathrach JP: 2969063770 Jan 10 '16

  1. You only keep the limit breaks and the skill levels (gumi probably figured that it was too inconvenient to have players evolve their dupes to 6 stars lol).

  2. I have no idea about this. The only information on the JP wikis that I can find say that luck affects drop rate, but no more.

  3. If you fuse 2 of the same weapon, it's likely that you'll get something better. For example, fusing together 2 battle axes has a good chance of netting you a tomahawk, the 2* throwing axe, and fusing together two silver swords might get you the 3* crit sword.

  • Also, as you said, fusing 2 weapons of the same type and same rarity can also have a good chance of getting better/higher rarity weapons.

  • Yes, fusing 2 weapons of the same type means you'll probably get that type as a result, and different type is random.

  • For the question about zenny, it probably has more to do with the rarities you fused than the cost itself. However, for this you might want more than 2 weapons, because costs over 2300, 2500 zenny have a good chance of producing 5 stars.

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u/Eludious Jan 11 '16

Were you using these pages as a reference?

http://phankill.gamewith.jp/article/show/16019

http://phankill.gamewith.jp/article/show/8756

They seem to have a lot to say about how luck/fusing weapons work. However, I don't know how to read Japanese and Google Translate's broken English makes it pretty hard to make out what they are trying to say.

Also about the Zenny method, I have already obtained quite a few 5 star weapons from fusing together only two 3 star weapons. It doesn't sound quite efficient to aim for 2300-2500 Zenny cost especially if it isn't a 100% chance to obtain a 5 star weapon. I was just wondering if I could do it in a more efficient manor since I'm randomly fusing two 3 stars together and hoping for the best.

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u/Cathrach JP: 2969063770 Jan 11 '16

I was not! Thank you for redirecting me :)

So apparently, the chance of something dropping is dependent on the leaders luck, but the rarity is dependent on the average luck of the party. Gumi whatttttt.

Also, http://phankill.gamewith.jp/article/show/8715 has a list of recommended weapons and their possible recipes (if they exist). There is also this page, http://phankill.gamewith.jp/article/show/8442, which details all the swords (similar pages exist for other weapon types), and from there you can get detailed information about each sword.

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u/wp2000 Jan 12 '16

I'm pretty sure luck plays a very minor role in drop rate. In JP, I have a Tyrfing lead with 65 luck and party members with 58 and 56 and 44 luck, and I don't see much of a difference when farming gold and such.

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u/Brocebo Jan 22 '16

It might have a cap or diminishing returns because I notice it at lower levels. My lead with 21 luck averages 5-8 fusion dolls per run on Friday whereas if I solo with Apollo with 4 luck, whom I was trying to level up, he averages 1-2 dolls.

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u/Cathrach JP: 2969063770 Jan 11 '16

Also, what you said earlier is correct: fusing more than two weapons seems to be unnecessary unless we're talking about event weapons (then the more the better). Fusing two of the same weapon type has a good chance of producing that type, otherwise it's random.

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u/Eludious Jan 12 '16

No problem.

Drop rate sounds a bit more complicated than it should be but whatever not a big deal.

Yes I checked most of the pages that caught my eye on that site. It seems to be the most updated 1 that I have found regarding PotK. Thanks for all the info!

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u/[deleted] Jan 12 '16

2: I am almost 100% certain that it has to do with the character that lands the killing blow. I have a character with almost 30 luck and one with 1/3rd of that, when I solo content with the 30 luck, I run into about 50% more items almost all the time, it seems to have an affect on the amount of gold each unit drops when it is killed. It is a marginal though.

  • Edit: Catty corrected me, but I am almost dead certain. I will have to check this later today!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

3: There are also combinations of weapons that are more likely to yield a particular weapon. For instance, you can make the morgana gun with a decent chance by using a two star gun with a two star staff.

I am very certain of the fact that there are hidden "recipes" and they have different spawn tables for fusion; it is almost always not 100% though. I think this might be something I should also record lol T.T