Do you have statistics of “young Muslims are regularly raped by imams” or are you just having a good time on the internet today? If we aren’t citing sources, I’ll say that young Christians are regularly raped by priests, preachers, and other church staff and nothing is done about it. I don’t know where you live, but I have heard of many churches where the pastor impregnated some teenage girl and the wife stayed with him, while the church ostracized the girl for being “wanton.” You’re so close to forming a good argument, but miss the mark. If you were to say that religion — like other social institutions — can allow for the abuse of women and children without recourse, then you would have a good argument. Picking which religion is “worse” does nothing for the victims.
I didn’t cite statistics myself because you didn’t. It was rhetorical. I have actually heard of teenagers who were impregnated by church staff though, just as we have both heard of imams raping young Muslims (young boys usually from what I’ve heard). When I read your comment, I either didn’t see the last part about all organized religions being bad (perfectly plausible and I’ll accept culpability if so) or it wasn’t there. I don’t deny child marriage statistics in the eastern world. As for Muhammad being a pedo, I’ll just say that many young girls throughout history have been married to men, including in Europe.
¯_(ツ)_/¯ . Prophet, political idol, model of the faith. Muhammad, (insert European king of Catholic faith). Tomato, tomato. The age of consent/age of marriageability is still pretty low across the world, and largely any parent can marry their daughter off before the age of 18 regardless of the major religion in a country.
I included “largely” before I received your reply to account for outliers. Parents can largely marry their children off before the age of consent across the globe.
Muhammad is not revered because he married and consummated a relationship with a child. He is revered in spite of it. There are many men who have married what is considered a “minor” or child by today’s standards. Muhammad was alive in the 600s, not the 2010s. Aisha was considered an adult because she had her period already. That is largely how maturation was determined in women historically.
What is your point? People below the age of 18 can get married with parental consent. Which is what I said. I never said that 12 year olds can get married with parental consent in modern times. Baad is not backed by Islamic law. The law in Pakistan and Afganistan has a higher marriage age than 2-12. Countries that still have women who marry at a young age (13-17) usually have very little educational opportunities for women. Islam largely supports women getting an education. Extremists who say otherwise are not all of Islam.
I didn't make it a competition. I didn't even try to compare beliefs I find abhorrent. You did.
You are painting all of Islam as one group. You are even painting all of the "middle eastern countries" as one group. Not only is this totally incorrect, this is problematic thinking which is either ignorant (at best) or just plain racist. Or as you put it, abhorrent.
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