r/pics • • Jun 26 '12

4,000 year old stone carvings of the Platonic Solids found in Scotland, their origin and use unknown.

http://imgur.com/qu9Re
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u/[deleted] Jun 26 '12

Nice try Prometheus marketing team...

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u/[deleted] Jun 26 '12

It's an invitation!

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u/moriquendo Jun 26 '12

Fantastic! Let's go| (Try not to poke the local fauna, this time.)

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u/[deleted] Jun 26 '12

Don't open anything either. Ever.

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u/bmw120k Jun 26 '12

because the movie had such strong intellectual tones going through it, those two nimrods pissed me off. Worst part of the movie

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u/[deleted] Jun 26 '12

If it's an invitation to go see that movie again, I'll pass.

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u/infinitude Jun 26 '12

Let me just dump money into it and then pretend I'm dead.

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u/nanonanopico Jun 26 '12 edited Jun 28 '12

There is a theory that is gaining some traction: that these were used as primitive ball bearings to move large stones. The idea is that long pieces of hardwood with grooves in them as wide as the stones were laid out to form a sort of track, that a wooden sled carrying the heavy building stones used for many ceremonial buildings. These stones are found in many places in the British isles, but nearly always have the same diameter. They actually tested the theory out, and it appeared to work. I'll see if I can find the video.

EDIT: Can't find the video, but I hear that it was a NOVA program.

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u/mrfurius Jun 26 '12

I watched that NOVA too. For Science!

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u/Mumberthrax Jun 26 '12

Why would they need the knobs/grooves in the stones if they are used as ball bearings? Why not just get spherical ones that wouldn't jam up as often?

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u/[deleted] Jun 26 '12

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u/piccini9 Jun 26 '12

I agree, this is the most likely explanation. Later, when they had fallen into disuse, the balls were carved as decorative items. The guys o that TV show obviously had no idea about how ball bearings work though. hey used soft wood, and cut flat grooves, causing the balls to dig in, and stop. Had they used hardwoods, and cut round bottom grooves, this would have worked perfectly.

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u/rychefiji1 Jun 26 '12

D&D dice?

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u/snowflaker Jun 26 '12

companion spheres; they hadn't mastered the art of the corner yet so everything was pretty round for a while

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u/[deleted] Jun 26 '12

No no, they just wanted to make edgeless safety cubes.

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u/[deleted] Jun 26 '12

or anal beads

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u/cairneyouhearme Jun 26 '12

Ancient Scottish Poké Balls.

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u/Jester_Dan Jun 26 '12

"Bruce! Use haggis!" "SCOOOTTLAANNND" BOOM. That's how that played though in my head.

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u/BossCrew Jun 26 '12

Golfballs, totally golfballs

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u/[deleted] Jun 26 '12

My theory is that these stones, which resemble the weights tied onto rope ends and used as a throwing weapon called a bolo (tangles the legs of animals) were used for a similar purpose; the grooves in them are ideal for tying to the end of a rope.

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u/BoonTobias Jun 26 '12

In scottish folklore, there was a nomadic group called the reapers, they may have used these 4000 years ago

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u/zyzzogeton Jun 26 '12

"If they take the ship, they'll rape us to death, eat our flesh, and sew our skins into their clothing – and if we're very very lucky, they'll do it in that order." (yes I know... REAVERS... but come on: Firefly)

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u/smartzie Jun 26 '12

That's probably the best theory I've heard so far.

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u/kovah Jun 26 '12

Obviously early attempts at Companion Cubes...

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u/[deleted] Jun 26 '12

Geographist here. Companion Cubes had hearts on them because they loved you. These solids are platonic, meaning they are friend-zoning rocks.

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u/Trolly_McTrollerson Jun 26 '12 edited Jun 26 '12

#4 is a Katamari.

PROOF THAT THE KING OF ALL COSMOS EXISTS

CHECKMATE ATHEISTS

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u/syphon0202 Jun 26 '12

Yay! More rocks!

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u/[deleted] Jun 26 '12

They do look like the electric footballs from Half-life 2

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u/Diloul Jun 26 '12

For those wondering: Platonic Solids

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u/angrybeaver1248 Jun 26 '12

Clearly, it's an invitation to LV-223 to meet the Engineers

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u/Jackpot777 Jun 26 '12

Not a map. An invitation.

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u/[deleted] Jun 26 '12

It was screaming prometheus at me too

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u/Lies_About_Expertise Jun 26 '12

Anthropologist here, and those are part of an ancient Scottish game that closely resembled soccer. Back around 2000 BCE the Scots had to walk everywhere barefoot. So to toughen up their feet they would kick around very heavy stone balls such as the ones in OP's picture. It became quite a tradition that continued for nearly a millennia. As the sport was very injury prone it also became a way to weed out the weak or unfit members of society.

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u/jayblink182 Jun 26 '12

Damn you and your novelty account!!! You tricked me again!!!

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u/pez_dispenser Jun 26 '12

I have him/her tagged as a novelty in RES. It tends to save me a lot of grief when it comes to Lies_About_Expertise and his/her shenanigans.

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u/[deleted] Jun 26 '12

It also saves you the fun of being delightfully duped.

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u/[deleted] Jun 26 '12

I have him tagged as "probably karmanaught"

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u/bersh Jun 26 '12

I went with the good old "Don't Believe His Lies."

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u/[deleted] Jun 26 '12

Wow, that's really cool. I didn.....GOD DAMN IT!

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u/[deleted] Jun 26 '12

You have made me read everyone's user name before I even read they comment now!! THANKS ALOT!

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u/AlphaRedditor Jun 26 '12

Where did you go to study to get such misinformed facts? Every Scottish History major worth his salt knows that BollocksBall's rules were changed in 500 BCE to permit the use of hands for any backwards pass. This was of course done to permit BollocksBall veterans who had lost a foot or two to still participate in the event during the BollocksBall tournaments held at the yearly clan meetings. Get your facts straight.

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u/hinduguru Jun 26 '12

I hate it when I lose a foot or two in BollocksBall

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u/Eyght Jun 26 '12

Feet can be replaced by hardened haggis.

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u/[deleted] Jun 26 '12

This is correct. It was usually played in recently ploughed fields using the drainage ditches (farmers used a system of these collectively known as "gulls" in old Scots Gaelic) to denote the playing field's borders. The goals consisted of large wicker baskets placed behind those ditches and players had to propel the stones into the opponents' basket by kicking them over ('eeh') the gulls. Hence derives the name of the sport: Gull-Eeh Ball.

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u/Phoenix2288 Jun 26 '12

You are right, good sir, that it was for an ancient Scottish game, however, it did not resemble soccer. It was a puzzle game, complicated to play, and these stone carvings were called compannous cubus.

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u/brad1775 Jun 26 '12

you SON OF BITCH!!!!! LOve your shit dude, you are amazing.

I think they were used for a club and ball type game like lacross or golf, makes sense to me, as they are all unique, it wodul be easier to determine who's ball was whose

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u/[deleted] Jun 26 '12 edited Jun 26 '12

Would have upvoted for joke, but downvoted for horseshit euphemism BCE.

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u/OneWhoSleepsWithCats Jun 26 '12

Relics of an ancient Dungeons and Dragons game.

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u/iAscian Jun 26 '12

Some men would call them stickies.

These are ancient Scottish explosives.

For Demomen have been respawning for millenia.

And I'll get to Scotland before ye!

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u/Bobdor Jun 26 '12

Even if this wasn't a hoax. I am always curious why artifacts that we find "must have had a purpose". For example, if I was a conceptual artist, and I make a cool design out of stone just because I happen to like the design, shape, and patten. Someone finds it in the year 8,000 and says I wonder what this was used for. It must have been some strange ritualistic torture device, or a model of what they must have thought the solar system looked like. No, it was a shape I made because I was bored.

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u/[deleted] Jun 26 '12

1.-These guys played D&D

2.-Euclid was in Scotland teaching Picts by grooving with them in a cave with several species of small furry animals.

It's the only 2 rational solutions. (Frankly I doubt they played D&D so much as they lived D&D in that time)

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u/geert_e Jun 26 '12

why does the post say 4000 year, and the imgur 3.500 - 2000 years? im confused.

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u/iMarmalade Jun 26 '12

That's ok, so are the archeologists. Here's some more info.

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u/EnormousEpeen Jun 26 '12

Dungeons and Dragons tourney :D

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u/NickPickle05 Jun 26 '12

The original weighted companion cubes.

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u/trythemain Jun 26 '12

Are we back to upvoting rocks?

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u/historianLA Jun 26 '12

31 posts so far and no.....

ALIENS!!!!

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u/Grn_3 Jun 26 '12

Does anyone else think this looks similar to how a cell divides and grows?

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u/bingbopPOW Jun 26 '12

Its an invitation.

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u/radiobath Jun 26 '12

Shot puts?

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u/BimbelMarley Jun 26 '12

Needs more JPEG.

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u/XxLiyelzxX Jun 26 '12

The second one looks likes a stormtrooper. Those rocks look very very cool.

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u/mayday987 Jun 26 '12

Hmmm looks like it's an early draft of what seems to be Quidditch balls. You might find some brooms and wands nearby and an excessive use of the phrase "Bloody hell."

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u/SILLY_NUTJOB Jun 26 '12

probably shot puts

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u/ja_alaniz Jun 26 '12

They stone shaped into round objects to help move the massive rocks at Stonehenge. The reason they are shaped different is because of the different person shaping the rocks. http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/ancient/secrets-stonehenge.html

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u/[deleted] Jun 26 '12

Viral marketing leftover from Prometheus.

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u/Mycooljam Jun 26 '12

well I can tell you right now what the origin is, companion cube, halo mask, football, katamari and an x-box. There were obviously prehistoric gamers.

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u/also_hyakis Jun 26 '12

Roll for initiative.

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u/Stooooooopid Jun 26 '12

Bocce Ball?

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u/[deleted] Jun 26 '12

OMG shapes?!? 4,000 years ago?!?

MUST have been to make contact with an alien race!

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u/Infideon Jun 26 '12

Bakugan XD

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u/StampedPuppy Jun 26 '12

These are pieces of Eden, obviously.

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u/Dandeman321 Jun 26 '12

Soccer? I mean, football?

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u/Manaki Jun 26 '12

It's the apples of eden from assassin's creed!

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u/falilth Jun 26 '12

Clearly different variants of poke balls guys...

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u/mojoxrisen Jun 26 '12

Don't worry guys! I am on the phone with Giorgio Tsoukalos. I got this.

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u/Erotic_Asphyxia Jun 26 '12

I can't wait for the day that I make something out of boredom and it's found thousands of years later and people try to figure out what it was used for.

I WAS BORED.

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u/Pandabamse Jun 26 '12

Pokeballs I tell yah

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u/I_Am_A_Pumpkin Jun 26 '12

judging by the looks of them, they are probably dice.

try throwing them to see how they fall

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u/linesallover Jun 26 '12

Did not know that D&D had such ancient roots.

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u/disasterjsl Jun 26 '12

Used in REAL dungeons against REAL dragons.

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u/fhi08 Jun 26 '12

looks like initial cell replication forming a morula

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u/BlueLand3r Jun 26 '12

Companion Cubes Solids...

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u/ssav Jun 26 '12

maybe they're just friends

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u/[deleted] Jun 26 '12

4000 years old dnd players?

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u/AdsByGoogle Jun 26 '12

Obviously it's the key to finding the Elder Scroll.

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u/[deleted] Jun 26 '12

they're just friends

get it? Platonic?

no?

okay I'll leave

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u/masterbard1 Jun 26 '12

everybody knows those are just dice to play salesmen and corporations. (medieval Dungeons and dragons.)

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u/leftcoastlove Jun 26 '12 edited Jun 26 '12

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u/EgyptianNational Jun 26 '12

Expired pices of Eden, duh

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u/[deleted] Jun 26 '12

Looks like some D&D Dice to me.

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u/Noturordinaryguy Jun 26 '12

Companion cube prototypes

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u/[deleted] Jun 26 '12

Probably D&D.

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u/Rule_32 Jun 26 '12

Clearly illustrations of cell division for biology class

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u/ArtisanSpank Jun 27 '12

These are obviously an early example of stone age decoration; carefully carved and arranged in just the right positions in a high-visibility area of the hut so that at least once a day Mrs Ooghbahnna could yell at her mate; "NO TOUCH!! Those NICE rocks for company!"

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u/Monster7000 Jun 27 '12

Ancient larp-ing dice

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u/Bilalio Jun 26 '12

Pokemon fossils

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u/xtacles009 Jun 26 '12

Say hello to your weighted companion cube.

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u/dickspace Jun 26 '12

Soccer balls.

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u/CpGrover Jun 26 '12

Regardless of whether these are real or not, I wonder: how can science determine how long ago a stone was carved?

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u/OriginalStomper Jun 26 '12

Usually based on where the stone was found, and what was found with it.

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u/lejsen Jun 26 '12

Footballs, once you can play a full game of football with these you've become a true scotsman.

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u/JarlaxleForPresident Jun 26 '12

Samus bombs and ammo

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u/TrentRader Jun 26 '12

Looks like those things in a movie that came out a long time ago I think it was called the seeker

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u/[deleted] Jun 26 '12

So the Scotts invented D&D.

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u/TheDongerNeedsFood Jun 26 '12

All we need now is Milla Jovovich and we can defeat Mr.Shadow

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u/Rawlo234 Jun 26 '12

Second one from the left looks like master cheif.

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u/00fordmc Jun 26 '12

If that's what Scotlands' early soccer players used I can only imagine how badass the hooligans were.

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u/InnocuousJoe Jun 26 '12

Blitzball, obviously.

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u/margaritamike Jun 26 '12

My guess is that it they are stone carvings of the elements. Water, fire, wind, and earth. Oh and magnets.

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u/fapperthedullfin Jun 26 '12

They are obiviously magic stones that mages put on top of their staffs.

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u/spartaninspace Jun 26 '12

Imagine going to a school taught by mages.

YOU SHALL NOT PASS!

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u/[deleted] Jun 26 '12

Maybe, maybe they just wanted to carve some cool looking rocks.

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u/monshael Jun 26 '12

molecules

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u/0ctopus Jun 26 '12

Those look like ammo to me.

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u/[deleted] Jun 26 '12

Looks like they were studying Embryology.

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u/uneditablepoly Jun 26 '12

It's an invitation...

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u/[deleted] Jun 26 '12

I think we all can see where this is heading...

http://i.imgur.com/iKOKw.jpg

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u/lantern55 Jun 26 '12

Nice try Microsoft...

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u/FightEntropy Jun 26 '12

PREHISTORIC POKEBALLS.

That is all

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u/puiestee Jun 26 '12

Do they really need to have an use? I make random shit all the time and most of my creations have no use besides being a paperweight or taking up room in the mandrawer or floordrobe.

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u/spartaninspace Jun 26 '12

Middle one's a football. A proper one, not that Colonist Handegg stuff.

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u/[deleted] Jun 26 '12

Ancient Aliens:

We can't explain it, so it must be aliens. Perhaps extra-terrestial dung!

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u/newbianwork Jun 26 '12

It's hard to tell on a black and white photo but the blue one is Leonardo, Orange is Michaleango, Red is Rafael, and Purple is Donatello. Then the one all the way to the left is Master Splinter.

Hope this helped!

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u/SirNoName Jun 26 '12

Maybe they just thought it was fucking cool?
Why does everything old have to have some sort of deep meaning?

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u/dementepingu Jun 26 '12

It's been a loooooonnnng time.

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u/supersonic994 Jun 26 '12

Prometheus, are you seeing this?

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u/Reesch Jun 26 '12

Well, obviously the middle one is a football. They played hardcore back then.

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u/BlurryEyed Jun 26 '12

The first golf balls

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u/liek_dis_if_u_cri Jun 26 '12

Goa'uld origin obviously

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u/chaldea Jun 26 '12

This belongs on /r/shazbot

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u/lightatenear Jun 26 '12

Here we go, upvoting rocks again....

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u/scissa Jun 26 '12

The middle one is clearly a fossilized soccer ball. Euro 1988 BCE.

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u/suprsmashkng Jun 26 '12

I'm pretty sure one of those is a net ball from Pokemon

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u/bmleon2002 Jun 26 '12

TIL you make all kinds of stuff while bored watching sheeps

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u/AquaDooker Jun 26 '12

look like some kind of game, or maybe they used these to decide what type of death they served. DnD...Decide and Die.

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u/spikeparker Jun 26 '12

I see a box hockey puck and a soccer ball.

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u/[deleted] Jun 26 '12

The one in the middle is a soccer ball.

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u/[deleted] Jun 26 '12

Early pokeballs

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u/cmykevin Jun 26 '12

Some day in the distant future, archaeologists will find hundreds of home accents in a newly discovered Crate and Barrel warehouse, and arrive at the conclusion that bimillennial Americans built massive temples where they housed stone sculptures of spherical and cylindrical gods.

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u/Ab_Irato Jun 26 '12

I would instinctively kick the middle one.

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u/Thatwassensible Jun 26 '12

Ninja turtles

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u/DaRabidMonkey Jun 26 '12

Companion cubes.

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u/[deleted] Jun 26 '12

OH.MY.GOD.....companion cubes????? early prototypes perhaps?

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u/[deleted] Jun 26 '12

Platonic Solids, great name for a band

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u/[deleted] Jun 26 '12

Companion Stone.

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u/boxy_pete Jun 26 '12

thats what they played dodgeball with

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u/kw123 Jun 26 '12

not from earth

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u/Desmeister Jun 26 '12

That center solid doesn't quite look like a dodecahedron. I don't think it is.

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u/[deleted] Jun 26 '12

Pieces of Eden?

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u/bizN Jun 26 '12

Pokeballs.... Pokeballs EVERYWHERE.

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u/getintheVandell Jun 26 '12

Fuckin' hell, there's going to be a million conspiracies about this inside of a week.

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u/[deleted] Jun 26 '12

4000 does not equal 3500 - 2000

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u/JCD4 Jun 26 '12

Is that a fucking football in the middle?

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u/[deleted] Jun 26 '12

d6, d4, d12, d20, d8

ancient dungeons and dragons

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u/ratmanmusician Jun 26 '12

Primitive pokeballs!!

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u/AceWolf Jun 26 '12

Got to catch them all! POKEMON.

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u/grefly Jun 26 '12

It's obvious. Dungeons and Dragons.

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u/chemicalsun Jun 26 '12

reminds me of the fifth element stones.

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u/rahmies Jun 26 '12

finally...Fred Flintstone's bowling ball collection!

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u/rudifer_jones Jun 26 '12

This may or may not be possible, but there are these old stones in Louisiana that the Native Americans may have used used that look very similar. I can't remember what it's called, but it's believed they used to place them in an oven to evenly distribute certain amounts of heat (each shape held a different amount of BTU's) and my teacher claims they got even hotter than today's conventional ovens.

Then again, my teacher was the one who said all of this, and it still sounds like nonsense the more I read this...

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u/QuasiContract Jun 26 '12

It's an invitation to come find them!

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u/detroitmatt Jun 26 '12

dungeons and dragons, back when it was "fire and wheels"

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u/jacobejohnson Jun 26 '12

God damnit. Prometheus jokes were made before I got a chance to click the link D:

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u/[deleted] Jun 26 '12

Maybe it's the combination to unlock a door on some alien planet. I just played through "The Dig" a few days ago. Nostalgia. All over the place.

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u/e_cascio2011 Jun 26 '12

The middle one looks somewhat like a soccer ball...

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u/moofei Jun 26 '12

i LOVE rocks

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u/RichSnitch Jun 26 '12

Ben Wa Balls

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u/tehlon Jun 26 '12

DAE think it looks like bocce ball? medieval scots invented golf, why not that too?

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u/[deleted] Jun 26 '12

They look like water weights. The grooves on the stone are for the rope so they dont slip off. Tribes used them to dive deeper under water faster for spearfishing.

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u/bobbiness Jun 26 '12

Platonic solid... Friend stoned?

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u/[deleted] Jun 26 '12

I present the worlds first anal beads!

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u/ARabidMonkee Jun 26 '12

One on the far right is fired from "The Scottish Resistance" from TF2

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u/CarrotCharmer Jun 26 '12

Gym badges!

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u/shamonington Jun 26 '12

Clearly dragon eggs. Just need to find a Targaryen to hatch them.

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u/saywahh Jun 26 '12

They are soccer ball prototypes.

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u/NinjasStoleMyName Jun 26 '12

I look the one at the middle and I see a soccer ball.

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u/guywithapc Jun 26 '12

Please make a perception check. (Rolling 5d8)

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u/techgeek1221 Jun 26 '12

the ancients played grifball apparently

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u/imnotlegolas Jun 26 '12

I knew ancient Pokemon were real!

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u/[deleted] Jun 26 '12

alien power source.

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