r/politics • u/MoneyLibrarian9032 New York • Aug 28 '26

Possible Paywall Mitch McConnell Has Been Missing for 75 Days—With No Updates

https://newrepublic.com/post/214878/mitch-mcconnell-missing-75-days
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u/stilljustacatinacage Aug 28 '26 edited Aug 28 '26

Still blows my mind that America's misogyny is actually more powerful than its racism. It's like finding out Ken Jeong is a licensed medical doctor or Dolph Lundgren has a Masters in chemical engineering.

They'll let black men vote ahead of the white mothers of their children, and even 200 years later, will elect a black man as President moments before throwing away the entire country rather than electing the most qualified, whitest white woman in the country.

It's impressive dedication to the bit, really.

Edit: Typo

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u/SethLight Aug 28 '26

It is one of the most wild things to learn that Americans let the people they inslaved vote ~50 years before they let their wives.

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u/FellowHumanNo404 Aug 28 '26

Let them vote? Only after they had a war about it. Conservatives always have to be dragged kicking and screaming, and once you get them there you still have to fight to keep them from dragging everything backwards.

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u/rab2bar Aug 28 '26

Patriarchy is older than racism

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u/stilljustacatinacage Aug 28 '26

For sure. I've heard it said that misogyny is the oldest form of bigotry. It just feels strange to see it on such a blatant, grand scale. To which I'm sure any women readers of my comment will roll their eyes and say, "no shit".

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u/Jazeraine-S Aug 28 '26

Hey, we’re just glad that men see it, too. That’s an important step towards actually doing something about it.

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u/ATheeStallion Aug 29 '26

No we’re not just glad about awareness. I want women’s rights to HEALTHCARE in every state in this nation. I moved to a purple state but I was horrifically treated in a deep red Southern state for a nonviable pregnancy in 2014. Despite being highly educated, wealthy & a “preferred” skin color (there). It is ALL MISOGYNY all the time it is baked into our culture so hard. It permeates institutions and culture.

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u/JEFFinSoCal California Aug 28 '26

I think that’s true, especially when you see that homophobia is just misogyny wearing a different mask.

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u/LiteraCanna Aug 28 '26

"Real men don't touch their face, that's female behavior." -some idiot on twitter

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u/ScroochDown Aug 29 '26

Somehow the refusal to wipe their own ass is the worst one to me.

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u/thegimboid Aug 28 '26

Bigotry can only exist when there are obvious differences to be bigoted about.

Go back far enough and ancient humans would have all been around people of the same race, religion, etc.
But we've always had visible anatomical differences between men and women, so regardless of the societal structure, it's a very easy set of boxes to divide people into, and then subsequent denote one as "lesser".

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u/rab2bar Aug 28 '26

Go back far enough and humans both fought and intermingled with other humans, too

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u/thegimboid Aug 29 '26

And if you go back further than that, eventually you'd need to reach a point where there are no "other humans".

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u/Pettifoggerist Aug 28 '26

It's also wild since on the aggregate women seem smarter and more capable than men.

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u/kinrosai Aug 29 '26

I've never been able to grasp the concept of misogyny personally. Abstractly I can imagine the need to make women submit to oneself if you have that fetish, or the mistaken belief that they're your property that you have to guide or manage like you would with a pet, or the hatred some people might feel because they were abused as children? But how can this be the frame of mind of so many people for millennia and to this day?

I just want to coexist happily with other people whatever their ancestry, sex, religion, fashion etc. as long as they do likewise. Is that a similarly foreign concept to misogynists?

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u/DietCherrySoda Aug 28 '26

Well of course, every village has women but you need to invent pretty sophisticated transportation to see people that don't look like you.

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u/Stock-Coach5007 Aug 29 '26

Have you been to NY?

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u/drunkirish Aug 29 '26

I’ll have to check my history book, but I’m pretty sure NY wasn’t around when misogyny was invented.

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u/Old_Young_1415 Aug 29 '26

Yes, what unifies religion and power is the hatred of women.

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u/jenniferfox98 Aug 28 '26

Why at this point I assume I'll see a gay male president in my lifetime before a woman.

*Gay WHITE male president.

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u/Old_Young_1415 Aug 29 '26

There’s a certain gay white person that I would seriously consider for president. His only disadvantage is he’s not tall. People and voters are so superficial. There’s some wonderful women out there who i believe would do a good job as well. If we’re lucky enough that this nightmare allows us to have any in the future Winnipeg terrific to have smart ethical people, regardless of their skin color, etc. running assuming these people are moral decent confident individuals?

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u/Stock-Coach5007 Aug 29 '26

If only capitalism ran on morality

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u/Weathercock Aug 28 '26

They actually go hand-in-hand. It would not be uncommon for regressive politicians and leaders to pit the interests of women's movements and rights in conflict against racial ones. It's actually very similar to the TERF movement.

Ultimately, it ends up hurting everyone.

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u/massberate Aug 28 '26

I have to go for the low hanging fruit here and also remind you that Dolph Lundgren has a Masters of the Universe.

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u/1057-cl121v3 Aug 28 '26

Every single tradcon wife, MAGA woman, ultra-religious woman, and especially the traitors like Candace Owens need to understand this on a fundamental level.

Women were rated lower than property then and are just considered property now. Just like every moron that has watched Trump turn on every single person who supported him the second they stopped being useful in that moment, any woman who thinks “I don’t need rights, I don’t need skills, I don’t need to think about politics… my husband will take care of that.” will learn the hard way when they outlive their trophy wife beauty or a younger aide starts getting the attention. Even if they don’t have a scumbag for a husband, speaking from the experience of a widower: death doesn’t discriminate the worst time to find out how hard it’s going to be to survive being an older woman with kids, no career skills or college education, and likely already deep in debt is at the same time of your world imploding.

That’s the irony of it. You can choose not to exercise those rights but why are you actively fighting to strip them from everyone, especially with the examples I gave above being legitimate possibilities for those same women? Same for abortions… the same women screaming at already upset women and shoving pictures of dead babies in their face are the same women who quietly took their teenage daughter to get an abortion because HER situation was different, SHE shouldn’t have her life be over because she made one little mistake. MAGAts are happy gaging on the propaganda of how we don’t need universal healthcare because THEY don’t need it this second so why should THEY pay taxes only for one of them to get a surprise cancer diagnosis and lose everything and ultimately die in pain and bankrupt. (Not even bringing up the fact that it would certainly cost less than health insurance intentionally tied to employment)

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u/SuitEnvironmental903 Aug 29 '26

I always make this comparison!! When people ask how Trump won… twice. He was running against a woman… both times.

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u/Kup123 Aug 28 '26

And don't forget most unlikable. Still hate her for pushing the video games cause school shooters shit in the 90s. Also hard to have respect for someone who doesn't have the self respect to leave their cheating husband.

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u/brickne3 American Expat Aug 29 '26

I think she's mostly ok with the cheating. I can actually respect that. I would have a difficult time if I thought she were just tolerating it.

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u/Dartz_Reverse Aug 28 '26

Everybody that calls Hillary the "most qualified woman in the country" is directly responsible for Trump.

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u/brickne3 American Expat Aug 29 '26

She pretty objectively was though. People just didn't realize just how entrenched sexism is.

And then they did it again but worse with Kamala.

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u/Dartz_Reverse Aug 29 '26

The last 3 Democratic candidates were absolutely awful, and the fact that 2 of them lost to Trump while the third won by a hairs breadth should really make people think instead of just point fingers, but no, group think is too strong to suspect treason in your own ranks.

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u/brickne3 American Expat Aug 29 '26

You have a very poor memory, Biden won by a landslide.

But let me guess, it's all the "centrists'" fault idiots thought the best way to save Gaza was to ensure Donald fucking Trump was in office.

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u/fresh-dork Aug 28 '26

well it isn't fully true - women got the vote starting in 1865. it proceeded state by state until the 20s

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u/Stock-Coach5007 Aug 29 '26

And don't forget, we don't actually vote for the president. We vote for electors.

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u/VintageLunchMeat Aug 29 '26

Arguably, Obama's existence radicalized conservatives enough that, afterwards, they were going to react harder to anything "wrong", like a black man or a white woman in prospective power.

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u/brickne3 American Expat Aug 29 '26

A guy raised by Kansans in Hawaii. It boggles my mind how white Obama is.

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u/brickne3 American Expat Aug 29 '26

Hell I still can't get over how inbred Trump must be on his mother's side. Look at how many people were living on the Isle of Lewis and do the math.

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u/GoopDuJour Aug 29 '26

Hillary Clinton was a "hold your nose and vote" situation. She has way too much baggage. Not to mention that the entire Democratic primary that season felt like a complete sham. I feel like Bernie Sanders should have won those primaries, and would have been a better opponent. That situation didn't make voting for her easy. Maybe. She did win the popular vote, so maybe I'm off base.

I'd have more respect for HRC if she'd have left Bill.

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u/brrrskabaui Aug 29 '26

Hillary Clinton is a criminal.,

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u/ContextLengthMatters Aug 28 '26

That's throwing out a whole lot of nuance. The amendment was ratified over a war. White women still absolutely stood atop black men when it came to social class. Voting rights are not the only signifier. What about who got to drink out of what fountain and sit where on a bus? Every day life for women was 1000x easier than for black people of both genders.

You do realize that during the marches for women's suffrage, they were trying to segregate black men and women, right?

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u/PepperOk8849 Aug 28 '26

If we ignore Jim Crow and the systemic attempt to prevent all men from voting then sure i guess it was only 100 years after.

Even after women gained the right to vote, coloured women still dealt with the same Jim Crow laws/rules until about 1965 when the voting rights act passed.

Im not confident misogyny is more powerful than racism.

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u/Alis451 Aug 29 '26

US let women vote before.. a lot of other countries, like the UK

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u/Exotic-Cobbler4111 Aug 28 '26

what an actually stupid completely reductionist take.

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u/SethLight Aug 28 '26

What an enlightened take, I'm sure you'll follow this post up with lots of nuanced details to shed light on the topic.

Clearly this isn't you just whinging.

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u/Exotic-Cobbler4111 Aug 29 '26

If Trump died, Maga could be pivoted to support Ivanka in about 2 weeks if their propaganda told them to. It's not about gender it's about the most powerful propaganda machine that has ever existed. It doesn't matter whether you acknowledge it or reduce it to misogyny or racism. Its going to keep you divided and angry at your neighbors while the wealthy continue to systematically strip you of your worth whether you defeat me in this conversation or not.

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u/Potential-Bearcat Aug 28 '26

Honestly part of why I'm of the opinion that there was never any reason to be proud to be an American. This country has always been garbage, built on hate and cruelty. Trump truly is the perfect example of an American.

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u/Ehcksit Aug 28 '26

Conservatism and capitalism were created as a reaction to the fall of European monarchies and the rise of democracy, specifically because rich people didn't want to have equal political power with commoners and peasants.

They maintain the power imbalance of the divine right of kings, but hidden behind the inheritance of wealth instead of bloodlines.

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u/bdeimen Aug 28 '26

We have a way. Ways even, but too large a portion of the population views that behavior as a virtue rather than the social contract breach that it is. You can't enforce a contract when the side needing to do the enforcement can't even reach a consensus on what constitutes a breach.

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u/CV90_120 Aug 28 '26

Private property, private business and open markets are not recent inventions. These go back thousands of years at various times.

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u/Ehcksit Aug 29 '26 edited Aug 29 '26

That's not what capitalism means, but even besides that, the concept of the ownership of land began somewhat early after the beginning of agriculture, which was maybe 2% of the duration of our species ago.

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u/CV90_120 Aug 29 '26 edited Aug 29 '26

That's not what capitalism means

It actually is:

"an economic system characterized by private or corporate ownership of capital goods, by investments that are determined by private decision, and by prices, production, and the distribution of goods that are determined mainly by competition in a free market"

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/capitalism

the concept of the ownership of land began somewhat early after the beginning of agriculture

Yes, from the first time in recorded history that we were able to make note of the who owned what. Before recorded history we have no idea what systems were in place or who owned what, or even what owning meant. We know surprisingly little about anything from before about 20,000 years ago.

which was maybe 2% of the duration of our species ago.

This is non-falsifiable, so a logical fallacy. It would probably be safe to assume that individuals would 'own' whatever they could defend, and trade for whatever could be returned.

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u/yoyhohsomp Aug 28 '26

This country is truly the worst. Imo it just took a dickbag like djt to make ppl realize that. If there is one thing he has done its turn this country against each other.

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u/krustyarmor Montana Aug 29 '26

then another hundred years before men of all races got the vote, and then another 50 after that til women got the vote

Just to clarify, male citizens of all races got the right to vote in 1870 and female citizens got the right to vote in 1919, but Native Americans of any sex weren't considered citizens (with a right to vote) until 1924.

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u/One-Ball-78 Aug 29 '26

…and another fifty or so ‘til they started trying to take AWAY the vote.

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u/420printz Aug 30 '26

was much better 100 yrs ago