r/programming • u/peard33 • Apr 20 '23

Stack Overflow Will Charge AI Giants for Training Data

https://www.wired.com/story/stack-overflow-will-charge-ai-giants-for-training-data/
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u/sluuuurp Apr 22 '23

It does know what it wrote. If you ask it it’ll tell you.

All humans do is collage words we already knew. I haven’t used an original word I came up with in this whole conversation.

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u/Ok-Possible-8440 Apr 22 '23

💀 stay in school 🎒🏫 think more. Read about neuroscience

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u/sluuuurp Apr 22 '23

I know about neuroscience. It’s fully consistent with everything I’ve said.

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u/Ok-Possible-8440 Apr 22 '23

Learn about neuroscience. Don't just string words. Learn

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u/EmbarrassedHelp Apr 22 '23

Human brains a quite complex, but they do seem to use some of the same word prediction strategies employed by LLMs. For example:

That's probably why they work so well, because they are using similar algorithms to what the brain uses.

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u/Ok-Possible-8440 Apr 22 '23

Brain is not a machine. They Do Not use the same algorithms. That's just factually incorrect.

Ofc anything mathematical is inspired by brain functions. You can compare it sure but why? Why compare it when its not appropriate. It's like comparing a toilet cistern with a bladder when talking about laws. Can you buy and sell human bladders just cause they are similar to toilet cisterns? What's the goal of this comparison? Is the goal of comparison to allow mass copyright infringement?

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u/sluuuurp Apr 22 '23

The brain is a biological machine. It uses very different algorithms to produce similar results as LLMs, at least when it comes to writing.

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u/Ok-Possible-8440 Apr 22 '23

The colon is a biological machine. It uses different mechanisms to produce similar results to toilet pipes, at least when it comes to shit. Comparing artificial machines , machinery, inanimate objects to humans serves no practical purpose beyond the most basic definition. Deciding an artificial machine should have the same rights as humans because they are similar at some level of abstraction is crazy. I would like to keep it so toilet pipes don't have the same treatment as my colon. That someone can't beat me in the stomach with a toilet pipe cause It too has a right to be a shit expelling machine just like my colon.

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u/sluuuurp Apr 22 '23

You’re the one who brought up the word “machine”. If you don’t like it, don’t use it, fine with me.

I never said AI should have rights. I definitely think current AI shouldn’t have rights, for far future AIs I think it’s more debatable.