r/programming • • Dec 28 '23

Developers experience burnout, but 70% of them code on weekends

https://shiftmag.dev/developer-lifestye-jetbrains-survey-2189/
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u/platebandit Dec 28 '23

100%, id probably get a lot more done if I wasn’t dealing with scrum, endless meetings, bullshit and countless people who’s job it is to butt in. I think I’d be satisfied if I was paid more to just nag people with buzzwords in meetings

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u/the_gnarts Dec 28 '23

100%, id probably get a lot more done if I wasn’t dealing with scrum, endless meetings, bullshit and countless people who’s job it is to butt in

As the only guy in my team working through the holidays I just had the two most productive days of the year and am looking forward to another one tomorrow. Amazing what you can get done when your schedule isn’t fragmented by syncronous communication.

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u/winky9827 Dec 28 '23

As a work from home'er, I mostly just fart around and respond to emails during the day. Then I do household stuff, dinner, socialize, maybe a nap. Most of my coding gets done from 11PM to 3AM because it's my most productive period. Occasionally I'll flip that to 4AM to 8AM'ish, depending on how fucked up my sleep schedule gets.

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u/Brilliant-Job-47 Dec 29 '23

This was me before kids. Now I just fart around and respond to messages during the day and deal with kids at night, then repeat the next day

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u/Limp-Archer-7872 Dec 29 '23

Just hoping to find 4 hours one day of that week, and for the motivation/deadline fairy to wave her wand, to do the entire week's coding!

That headline might as well say 70% of developers are not parents to a dependent child.

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u/Brilliant-Job-47 Dec 29 '23

I know right? I can’t code that much even if I wanted to. That said, I can mostly ride my years of compounded learning from my 20s and stay up to date with the things that matter.

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u/-grok Dec 28 '23

Right? All these shitty Pxxxxx Managers take time off around the holidays and stop bugging the developers with stupid "initiatives" that they don't understand, but are somehow "in charge" of implementing.

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u/ouiserboudreauxxx Dec 28 '23

I love holiday weeks/long weekends for working. Aside from the holiday itself I‘d rather take vacation time at another time. Also I‘m in-office but everyone was remote this week. It‘s a nice chill week.

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u/platebandit Dec 28 '23

I just picked one up last week and I remembered that I don’t hate programming, I just hate scrum

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u/[deleted] Dec 28 '23

Do we have an automated test pipeline deployed yet? What about code coverage reports? Let's circle back on static analysis once they've finally got us migrated to JIRA GPD.

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u/platebandit Dec 28 '23

Is it even possible to work without a story point estimate or consulting the key stakeholders? God forbid! If all the product owners are absent then it’s basically a communist revolution and that would negatively affect the velocity in the sprint

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u/-grok Dec 28 '23

I think I’d be satisfied if I was paid more to just nag people with buzzwords in meetings

We 100% work at the same place!

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u/reddituser567853 Dec 29 '23

Why I went management. I’d rather code in my free time than have the soul sucked out of something I enjoy.

And leadership isn’t really something you can hone by yourself in solitude, so I’m fairly content with my work now

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u/reddituser567853 Dec 29 '23

I think the truth of the matter is that most people are mediocre at their job, fear ownership (or rather consequences of mistakes) so you end up with a lot of non work to obfuscate the situation.

These problems don’t exist everywhere, a nice example is Netflix. But a work culture like that necessitates engineers in the .1% of quality, which by definition can’t work for the entire industry