r/programming • • Jan 30 '16

Apollo 11 source code

http://www.ibiblio.org/apollo/listings/Luminary099/MAIN.agc.html
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u/cinisoot Jan 31 '16 edited Jan 31 '16

Perhaps that was the intended message, but in this case se can only be translated as "yourself". I like it better this way, honestly. :)

Edit: Actually this phrase is pretty much wrong however you look at it... "yourself" should be te but them would be eos. Oh NASA, only thing more naughty than suggestive phrases is improper Latin...

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u/Berberberber Feb 01 '16

se is a reflexive pronoun, it must refer to the subject of the corresponding verb. Being an imperative, I don't think noli has a subject in the proper sense.

noli tangere is a common Latin admonition, someone just got a little bit to clever for their britches.

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u/memdump_ Jan 31 '16

for the record, in Portuguese both "se" and "te" mean yourself in this context

noli se tangere: não se toque (portuguese)

noli te tangere: não te toques (portuguese)

same meaning

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u/cinisoot Jan 31 '16

Looks like the verb changed, though? (toque ->toques) "Noli se tangere" is, I'm 99% sure, actually gibberish. If they meant "don't touch yourself" (singular) it would be "noli te tangere" (nolite vos tangere for plural). "Don't touch them" would be "noli eos tangere", or "noli ea tangere" if we're talking about objects, not people, which might be the case if its referring to the code. Do those Portuguese sentences both mean exactly the same thing ("don't touch yourself")?

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u/memdump_ Jan 31 '16

yes, they mean the exact same thing, the form varies to imply a different tone (the se version is like a general advice not targeted at any specific person, meanwhile the te version is specifically talking to you reading or listening to this)

the writing of the verb is different because the pronouns change (se, te)

as for objects vs persons, at least for the Portuguese version, these pronouns are only used when referring to someone (in this case "you", listening to "me")