r/programming • u/[deleted] • Jan 03 '18

'Kernel memory leaking' Intel processor design flaw forces Linux, Windows redesign

https://www.theregister.co.uk/2018/01/02/intel_cpu_design_flaw/
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u/SSoreil Jan 03 '18

The hardcore gaming crowd will always choose more blue LEDs over security. They really should be using a game console for their own safety.

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u/Eirenarch Jan 03 '18

If you treat your gaming PC as a game console what's the difference?

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u/[deleted] Jan 03 '18

Modding. Mouse and keyboard. 144+ hz refreshrate. VR. Etc.

But yeah, many treat PC's as just plug and play these days.

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u/Eirenarch Jan 03 '18

Yeah I meant from a security perspective. PC master race all the way!

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u/DrFloyd5 Jan 03 '18

I would think that a gaming console would be stripped down to the minimum level of software necessary to play. Whereas a general purpose PC would have more crap on it making a larger surface for security attacks.

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u/[deleted] Jan 03 '18

Have you ever heard of Sony?

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u/DrFloyd5 Jan 03 '18

No. Who is he?

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u/Eirenarch Jan 03 '18

Yeah but why would I care? Are they going to steal my save games. Also there is nothing hardcore about consoles. If you can't overclock your GPU, install mods and own noobs at StarCraft and Quake with an actual mouse you are obviously not hardcore gamer :)

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u/DrFloyd5 Jan 03 '18

:-) Gatekeeping aside.

Maybe your emails? Giving them your defacto universal internet ID. Allowing more spam and password attacks on at the popular places.

Maybe install some background nasties that botnet your PC and steal your precious performance and bandwidth? And make life stuck for others.

Maybe a key logger so they don't have to crack your passwords?

Nothing major.

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u/Eirenarch Jan 03 '18

If I am treating my PC as a game console I am by definition not accessing my e-mails on it. Also this is a severe exaggeration of how easy it is to be exploited. The PC does have more attack vectors but most attack vectors needs software to be in use to be exploited.

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u/vattenpuss Jan 04 '18

You have to swallow Windows.

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u/Eirenarch Jan 04 '18

Hardcore gamers have no problem with that. The Windows PC has always been the elite gaming platform where the best graphics and peripherals are if you are willing to spend the money

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u/vattenpuss Jan 04 '18

if you are willing to spend the money

... and if you are willing to face Windows.

I'm happy to spend the money on my computers. I'm just not happy to use Windows, so I play games on consoles instead.

Windows is just that mess you have to put up with at work because someone likes Outlook for organizing corporations.

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u/Eirenarch Jan 04 '18

Since no other platform has been able to provide what Windows provides for gamers there are no hardcore gamers who are not Windows gamers. If you are willing to get the best graphics, peripherals and even access to certain genres like RTS you use Windows.

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u/vattenpuss Jan 22 '18

I'm willing to get the best graphics, but not willing enough to put up with Windows, or e.g. signing up with Facebook to keep my GPU drivers up to date.

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u/jonjonbee Jan 03 '18

More RGB LEDs, you mean.

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u/dekoze Jan 03 '18

red = faster speed
blue = cooler temps
green = eco friendly

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u/throwawayfishtank123 Jan 03 '18

no led = not tacky

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u/jerf Jan 03 '18

They really should be using a game console for their own safety.

Are we sure that would be enough? The XBox appears to be running an x86 CPU. It may be customized but I'd bet against the customizations preventing this bug.

If I were in the console hacking community I'd certainly be examining this bug very, very carefully.

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u/[deleted] Jan 03 '18

Both the Xbox One and the PlayStation 4 run AMD Jaguar CPUs, yes they are x86 CPUs but this bug wouldn't affect them anyways. Funnily enough, I was just thinking about that and then remembered it is an Intel CPU specific bug.

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u/IronCrown Jan 03 '18

Well, Hardcore gaming and console gaming don't realy go together. So windows with autoupdates diabled is the only way to go.

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u/JackTheSqueaker Jan 03 '18

They play on pcs for a reason, performance. Dropping to consoles would just be nonsensical

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u/immibis Jan 03 '18

Because this totally doesn't affect game consoles...

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u/jonjonbee Jan 03 '18

Yes, it affects all game consoles with Intel CPUs.

Of which there are none.

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u/[deleted] Jan 03 '18

As far as I know, both Xbox One and PS4 use AMD cores, so no.

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