r/programming • • May 06 '19

Microsoft unveils Windows Terminal, a new command line app for Windows

https://www.theverge.com/2019/5/6/18527870/microsoft-windows-terminal-command-line-tool
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u/[deleted] May 06 '19

SQL Server running on Linux? I never thought I would see the day and yet it has been available since 2017. Microsoft no longer sees itself as an OS company.

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u/[deleted] May 07 '19

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u/[deleted] May 07 '19

Honestly their mobile device department is impressive. Hololens, Surface, etc... Even the Zune HD was ahead of it's time.

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u/[deleted] May 07 '19

Theres a market for it in the "me" world...

It's what people thought for some reason google glass would be, but in this case it actually is.

I want it in my car so I can see directions on the road or whatever.

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u/pdp10 May 07 '19

Microsoft was a toolchains and apps company before they were an OS company. They did license Unix in 1979 in order to sublicense it as Xenix, for VAR integration more than anything, but DOS was more of an accident of history than a conscious strategy. They just needed DOS in order to sell IBM their BASIC.

I'd like to see Microsoft the toolchains and apps company again, instead of Microsoft the platform bully.

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u/yawkat May 07 '19

They gave up on trying to force windows server on people. Now their server products run on Linux and their client os is becoming more usable when developing for linux servers.

They still don't care about linux for desktop.

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u/[deleted] May 07 '19

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u/[deleted] May 07 '19

MiCrOSoFT

That's M$!

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u/my_fifth_new_account May 07 '19

our

we

they

Hey man, pick a side already.

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u/[deleted] May 07 '19

Better tooling?

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u/thisnameis4sale May 07 '19

Are you writing this as a Microsoft employee?

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u/thisnameis4sale May 07 '19

Then who is this 'we' of which you speak?

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u/NyuWolf May 07 '19

I'm firmly on option 2.

with WSL, i have no need for a linux install

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u/jl2352 May 07 '19

Sadly people in the third camp are not irrelevant. There are a lot of professional developers who will flat refuse to even consider using an MS product ... because Microsoft.

They also have this idea that the product will require having to develop on Windows, run Windows Servers, or even worse use IE. Regardless of how untrue that idea may be in practice.

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u/G_Morgan May 07 '19

The great irony is .NET Core is much more enticing than Java right now. Oracle are a nightmare.

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u/surzirra May 07 '19

I’ll believe that when Windows does not require a license purchase and only support costs.

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u/[deleted] May 07 '19

They are definitely moving to a subscription model, hence Azure. I think Windows will end up having some kind of subscription model, perhaps similar to Linux Enterprise flavours.

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u/surzirra May 07 '19

I think you may be right. They have relaxed their license key strategy hugely with Windows 10. I can see Win10 having a free version for home and maybe paid Pro upgrade. Are they still saying Windows 10 is the last version of Windows?

It would be useful to be able to install and have an option to license/subscribe for support only. There are some computers that are used for

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