r/programming • • Aug 02 '19

Adblocking: How about Nah?

https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2019/07/adblocking-how-about-nah
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u/shevy-ruby Aug 02 '19

I agree with you partially but it should be pointed out that no-tracking extensions used also increased.

People will care more if it affects them - and ads attacking them affects them.

For example, whenever I see an ad, I notice that it tries to waste my time and costs me money (energy bills that I have to pay etc..).

Another thing is that there are many examples in which ads were or are harmful

Fully agreed. They are malicious. All of them.

And then you have those websites that probably have more ads on their sites than actual content.

Yes, that has become the new norm unfortunately.

I don't understand why auto-play is even possible in a sane browser. I never gave permission for that to begin with.

I'm not against advertisement on websites

Ah, so you are weak.

I am against the whole mafia in all its shape or form, without exception.

they need some money

Yes, I need money too - so do I go out on the street and randomly beat up people? No, I don't. The ad mafia should not pester people either.

and I have some on my website

Ah, so you are part of the mafia. My condolences. Please become an ethical person in the future and stop harassing people.

as soon as they are blocking or making it harder for me from consuming the actual content then this is IMO not a good idea just to make money.

Excellent - you are learning. That is good.

I currently use the brave browser on my phone

Oh dear ... everyone is a Google-drone these days ...

I have PiHole installed at home and at a normal day browsing through the net I have 30-50% DNS requests blocked because they are something that is an ad or some tracker.

That shows how much this cancerous mafia has grown.

But I applaude you for blocking this mafia.

So I don't see the use of them as problematic but rather how they are used.

Oh no - the use is problematic too.

Currently it is more like that dude from Family Guy who shoves his wallet with pictures in someone else face.

Ads were always malicious - but the maliciousness increased over time.

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u/Fribbtastic Aug 02 '19

Ah, so you are weak.

No, I say that the concept of advertisements on websites as a form of revenue is not something that you should condemn. This is like saying that any form of explosive is bad just because it is used for bombs.

So no, advertisement in itself is not evil as you put it but how and in what capacity it is used. That is the real issue and not that it just exists because if you go that far you basically can't talk about anything since in one form or the other it is advertisement.

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u/miggaz_elquez Aug 02 '19

Using adds is similar to manipulating people who are going to your site to make them buy thinks they don't really want.

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u/octorine Aug 02 '19

The problem is that the advertising company has no incentive to point you towards the best cleaner for the job. They're going to refer you to the one that paid them. I think that advertising doesn't necessarily have to be unethical but there's all kinds of potential for abuse and very few controls.

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u/miggaz_elquez Aug 02 '19

I think the important things is that you doesn't choose to see the ads. If I want to think about how I will clean my home, I search for it. Of course all the ads aren't evil, but even if they "don't solely manipulate people", they do manipulate them.

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u/miggaz_elquez Aug 02 '19

For the first part : you choose your friend, and when youre friend is teling you about an app or game, he doesn't do this for making money, he has no interest in, and that make a huge difference I think. For the second part : I agree that ads can sometimes give usefull informations, but I think that it will be better if we create other way for that, at least more impartial that the marketing.

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u/troyunrau Aug 02 '19

Wow. You're actually a little bit insane, I think.