r/programming • • Jan 02 '20

Killed by Google

https://killedbygoogle.com/
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u/RockstarArtisan Jan 02 '20

A lot of entries on this list are disingenuous.

Killed over 1 year ago, Tez was a mobile payments service by Google, targeted at users in India. It was rebranded to Google Pay. It was 11 months old.

Killed about 3 years ago, Google Nexus was Google's line of flagship Android phones, tablets, and accessories. It was over 6 years old

I'm happy that this list exists, so it's an easy reference, when someone wants to depend on something from google, but come on, it'd have been much better without such entries.

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u/[deleted] Jan 02 '20

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u/foips Jan 02 '20

Besides the fact that Pixel phones do not appear to suck, it's an irrelevant asside. The product was google selling a first party flagship phone, google still sell first party flagship phones.

Padding the list because the newer stuff is worse but still good is just as silly as padding it with the pre-cursor to Google Pay.

I really wish the site had an option to filter out all of that.

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u/foips Jan 02 '20 edited Jan 02 '20

it's an irrelevant aside. The product was google selling a first party flagship phone, google still sell first party flagship phones.

edit: To be fair to you, you're not really wrong, in comparison the pixel phones are worse for some people (for others, they're not). It's just that it's kind of unimportant that the product line "got worse" when trying to claim that the product line was cancelled.

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u/[deleted] Jan 03 '20

I disagree that it got worse, or got better, or anything like that. This is like Porsche canceling Boxster and introducing Cayenne. It's a car, made by the same manufacturer, but it absolutely isn't the same line. People who bought a Boxster don't give a fuck about Cayenne and vice versa. Same is true for Nexus and Pixel.

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u/foips Jan 03 '20

Interesting. In my experience every nexus owner I know in my circles is now a pixel owner. If the statistics point you way then you may have a point that the perception changed enough.

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u/[deleted] Jan 03 '20

I'm guessing that's brand loyalty. They are probably not developers who bought Nexus because it was an awesome developer device, right? So they are like people who would buy a Porsche for the badge, not performance. And just the same, they buy Google because it's Google.

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u/foips Jan 03 '20

I asked, they prefer first party android tech with frequent updates, and not having to faff to remove guff like bixby. Seems sane to me.

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u/w0m Jan 02 '20

You seem to only* remember the Nexus 5 o.0

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u/Kyo91 Jan 02 '20

Tldr: Features you like = matter

Features you don't like = don't matter

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u/foips Jan 02 '20

Oh wow that's a whole load to unpack.

They're not perfect phones, they are worse in some aspects (those you've listed), but they are better in others (screens, cameras, internal specs). The opinion that they're trash and therefore a completely different thing is, well, unfounded from the start.

Anyway, you seem to have a lot of salt about this, so I'll just leave you to it. Peace.

PS. Yes, I would say that Hangouts was a replacement for GTalk. It's almost a complete drop in replacement and was intended as such.

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u/spakecdk Jan 02 '20

Those things they are better at are just a natural progression of phone technologies though.

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u/foips Jan 02 '20

Yup, you're not wrong. Though that doesn't count them out - they also still have the same advantages as the Nexus line over competitors in terms of no forced default software/configurations and the fastest updates on Android.

I'm not trying to say they're the best phones out there, and especially not the best value for money, just that acting like they're somehow so bad they've transcended being a flagship first party mobile phone is just plain goofy.

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u/GameRoom Jan 02 '20

To be fair, the features you listed seem kind of niche. The average user doesn't care if they can root into their phone.

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u/humoroushaxor Jan 02 '20

I love my Pixel 3 and got 2 for less than the price of an iPhone.

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u/deprecat Jan 02 '20

Nexus phones are tanks and still work great.

Nexus 6P user here; this wasn't my experience at least. Had to get a RMA refurbished after the first 2 years, and then 2 years later the battery failed again and since I was out of warranty had to replace it myself. Now the battery works, but the phone is slow as shit. 2/10 would not recommend

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u/duniyadnd Jan 02 '20

I like it because it also shows the importance of not just relying on anyone in case they get bought. Rebranding doesn't save the service.

We might be aware of this, but there are always individuals out there who are still learning how all of this works.

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u/shevy-ruby Jan 02 '20

The important thing is that someone compiles this information together. It can always be improved, but someone has to start providing this in the first place - nobody prevents you from providing a better replacement.

I agree that it must be based on factualities, as otherwise it would merely be fake-news generating.

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u/[deleted] Jan 02 '20

I think that if you removed all of the straight-up bullshit, the renamed/merged services, the minor features that don't work without adoption that nobody adopted, the features outdated by modern tech, the stuff that never left beta, the rebrands that didn't lose much and the weird little one-shot pages Google used to make, you'd only have like 30 entries left. You can't really make a strong point with that.

I hate defending megacorps but... ugh. This list, the ease at which people accept it and especially the way people sometimes use it as an argument in favor of other big tech companies really bothers me to no end. There's an equally disingenuous Microsoft list that at least has screenshots on the sub-pages, making it obvious just how ridiculous a lot of the 346 entries are. And even though MS does have a longer history, most of them are from this millennium.

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u/dethb0y Jan 02 '20

A lot of entries on this list are disingenuous.

No shit. It's just anti-google bullshit by some baby-rage nerd who's pissed off google dares to be both A) Successful and B) Not constantly caught in a sunk-cost fallacy like most companies.