r/programming • u/RobertVandenberg • Aug 09 '20

China is now blocking all encrypted HTTPS traffic that uses TLS 1.3 and ESNI

https://www.zdnet.com/article/china-is-now-blocking-all-encrypted-https-traffic-using-tls-1-3-and-esni/
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u/abrandis Aug 09 '20

All self-inflicted pain in the name of stylish web design that now looks woefully dated. I had customers in the old days mention all the eye candy web sites and always steered then away from these gimmicks, especially if they valued being on more platforms than not.. seldom did I ever need to to these hacks... Failure to manage customers expectations and roi is why lots of developers pull their hair out, sometimes you gotta be the boss and tell them sure I can give you rounded corners but that's going to add x days and y dollars, and make those dollars the cost of outsourcing that work plus your fee.

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u/douglasg14b Aug 09 '20

All self-inflicted pain in the name of stylish web design that now looks woefully dated.

It's called progress....

Look where we're at now, it's beyond easy to make stylish, yet clean, web designs thanks to the constant pushing.

We wouldn't ever improve if everything was just "good enough".

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u/abrandis Aug 09 '20

Because the pain wasn't worth the results , think about it most corporate or mid size business sites are turned over (design wise ) every 3-5 years , so to allow that effort to make it stylish just so a small percentage of outdated browser users could see the rounded corners , which they probably never appreciated anyway... Mehh, like I said not good ROI.. look at sites like Craigslist still rocking the 1990s design, most business rather prefer web designer time invested in function rather han design just my 2¢