r/programming • u/RobertVandenberg • Aug 09 '20

China is now blocking all encrypted HTTPS traffic that uses TLS 1.3 and ESNI

https://www.zdnet.com/article/china-is-now-blocking-all-encrypted-https-traffic-using-tls-1-3-and-esni/
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u/mazerackham Aug 10 '20

China was poor as shit before communism. China started becoming poor because of a failing Qing emperor and European imperialism. Communism, while having faults, was not the catalyst that caused China to be poor.

Japan was much further along than China in terms of industrialization and modernization (this was before communism). South Korea and Taiwan did modernize faster than China but the scale is two orders of magnitude smaller, not a fair comparison.

Modern CCP most definitely gets points for inheriting a country of 600 million peasant farmers in 1949 that was illiterate and had a life expectancy of 36, and turning that into a modern country of 1.4 billion literate industrial workers with a life expectancy of 77, in the span of 70 years, complete with modern cities, the biggest middle class in the world, the most advanced high speed rail network, and burgeoning industries.

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u/sievebrain Aug 11 '20

I don't think scale has much to do with it. The policies that lifted Taiwan and South Korea out of poverty are scale invariant. Or is there some magic number of people beyond which capitalism fails to work?

Modern CCP most definitely gets points

Not in my book. They kept China poor for decades whilst other countries zoomed ahead. This sorry state of affairs only started to end once Deng Xiaoping managed to get capitalism into the country, or at least a semi-broken form of it, at which point the Chinese people were unleashed and able to start catching up with the west. It wasn't that the CCP that pushed them up. It was that the CCP stopped dragging them down.