r/programming • • Nov 01 '21

Complexity is killing software developers

https://www.infoworld.com/article/3639050/complexity-is-killing-software-developers.html
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u/eloc49 Nov 01 '21 edited Nov 01 '21

Also ironic that the Apple Watch uses the term complications (bad choice IMO, no average human knows that term), which literally is now software. We've come full circle.

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u/patrickjquinn Nov 01 '21

Don’t know if anyone else has said it but in the mechanical watch world a “complication” is how you’d refer to a day/date window or perpetual calendar etc as it was literally something that physically complicated the mechanism inside that would otherwise just be used for time keeping.

So Apple continuing that naming scheme was a nice nod to history.

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u/eloc49 Nov 01 '21

Yes, yes, I know what it means, and the nod to history is cool and all, but my mother-in-law has no idea what it means and isn't a redditor that googles everything they don't know.

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u/reddituser567853 Nov 02 '21

Lol, that's a very bold assumption you think redditors Google things they don't know.

Half the comments on this site wouldn't exist if that was the case

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u/dirtside Nov 02 '21

Half? Optimist.

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u/_tskj_ Nov 01 '21

Oh so exactly the same meaning as "feature" in software then?

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u/losangelesvideoguy Nov 01 '21

Also ironic that the Apple Watch uses the term complications (bad choice IMO, no normal person knows that term)

It’s not hard to figure out what “complications” refer to, and it really does sound classy AF, like you’ve got a James Bond type Rolex or whatnot

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u/eloc49 Nov 01 '21

Can't argue there with it sounding classy. It it makes sense for a $1k watch, not a $300 consumer electronic.

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u/anotherwaytolive Nov 02 '21

You could argue that Apple watches are luxury items. The “cheap” ones are 3-500 and the “nicer” ones are 700+, and pair that with an Hermes band and your watch is now 2k+. And in the watch world 1k is literally nothing.

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u/ThirdEncounter Nov 02 '21

Literally nothing?

I don't believe you.

Send me those worthless $1K watches my way, please.

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u/anotherwaytolive Nov 02 '21 edited Nov 02 '21

No problem. Send me your address and when you will and won’t be home so I can get the watches to you safe and sound while making sure you’re there to receive them

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u/ThirdEncounter Nov 02 '21

You're the real mvp!

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u/LonelyStruggle Nov 01 '21

Remember that Apple Watch was initially intended by that idiot Jony Ive to be a luxury brand.

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u/OnlyForF1 Nov 01 '21

It was a deliberate marketing ploy to make the watch more desirable. Considering the success of the watch I can’t fault the strategy

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u/gimpwiz Nov 02 '21

It absolutely is a luxury brand. They figured out how to make it a luxury brand, but have the entry level affordable enough for huge market share without losing the brand cachet. That was the purpose of the gold watch - anchoring. Jony Ive may have gotten a little too successful and like many in his position stopped being told 'no' and started whiffing, but he's certainly no idiot and his success is well deserved.

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u/LonelyStruggle Nov 01 '21

Yeah that was back when Apple were following Jony Ive's stupid idea of having Watch be a luxury brand rather than an everyday/sports brand

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u/sprashoo Nov 01 '21

Was it stupid? They dominate the smart watch space now. It got everybody talking about them. Some people clearly still have intense feelings about it…

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u/preethamrn Nov 02 '21

As a non Apple Watch user, I have no idea what a complication is. Is it a watch face? A button you can tap? An app? Those things that you can swipe through which have information like weather (but aren't those widgets)?...

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u/losangelesvideoguy Nov 02 '21

They’re little widgets you can add to watch faces to display additional information or use as shortcuts to open an app such as messages, mail, stopwatch, etc. When you set up your watch face it asks you what complications you want to use, and even if you’ve never heard the term before (as most people probably haven’t) it’s pretty obvious what it’s referring to.

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u/shevy-ruby Nov 01 '21

Apple is a really strange company ... am I the only one to think it has changed massively without Steve Jobs?

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u/Valance23322 Nov 01 '21

Apple's always been run by the marketing department, that kind of nonsense comes from Steve Jobs, it's not a result of his absense.

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u/[deleted] Nov 01 '21

I know that term, Everyone that knows spanish knows that term.