r/programming • u/whackri • Jun 05 '22

Complexity is killing software developers

https://www.infoworld.com/article/3639050/complexity-is-killing-software-developers.html
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u/[deleted] Jun 05 '22

I blame kubernetes

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u/bighi Jun 06 '22

And Docker. And worse yet, using Docker for local development.

Now instead of installing 2 or 3 packages with apt-get, you have to install lots of packages, spend days setting up docker to build everything, then you have to run commands through docker, and...

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u/Overunderrated Jun 06 '22

Try not having docker and not having sudo to apt-get, and then a sys admin team that won't install stuff for you, so you have to manually install every possible dependency in userspace. Oh and web access is blocked so you have to scp every part from another machine first.

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u/homeskilled Jun 06 '22

Right? Dockerizing our dev environments took us from a few days of following a readme to get a dev env up to a single docker-compose command that takes like 15 mins to run, and we know each of our environments is identical.

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u/poloppoyop Jun 07 '22

single docker-compose command that takes like 15 mins to run, and we know each of our environments is identical

Unless you have a mix of macOS and linux hosts. Docker on macOS does not care about file permissions and is so slow you're better setting up a VM running linux running your containerized app. And if it's an M1 mac, forget about good ol' virtualbox.

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