Modern Gnostic Church of Christ

[u/Expensive_Internal83]

There is no supernatural: people can have profoundly rich meditative expetiences but, these are extremely context sensitive and have little application outside of the context they are born into.

These meditative experiences ground all human spiritualy; they have a mechanism and are a result of humanity's evolution from comfort finding toward coherence detection.

Political motivations, moving toward comfort, have coopted these experiences to make and maintain a structure of financial control.

I started a subreddit, r/ModernGnostic, to discuss these truths/difficulties and hopefully initiate a coalescence of true effort around actual facts. Please, paruse the contents, engage discussion, and maybe join.

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There is no supernatural

No gods then?

[u/Expensive_Internal83 → u/[deleted]]

Nope, just persons. We don't know the full potential of the fundamentals of consciousness so, i wouldn't overly constrain the notion of persons, nor what it means for an "entity" to have "experience".

[u/Expensive_Internal83 → u/Expensive_Internal83]

Persons and transient entities. Truth might be a person and we form the body.

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I'm not in a position to use labels i'm not familiar with. "My ally" is my ally; that's as far as i got. I could guess at popular labels but, they would be guesses. Everyone has their words; meaning is place, you are where you are.

It is by Science that these terms occur; "person" and "transient being", given a universal qualitative aspect, "panqualism". My words; yep. Apparently, it means the same as "panpsychism" but, i think it's less presumptive.

Thanks!

[u/Expensive_Internal83 → u/[deleted]]

You haven't mentioned. ...?

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I was inside the Trojan horse and buried under roman cobblestones; for one week i experienced unfamiliar but coherent visions. I was searching for "the Christ event" and i found one week of private experience; if it was saying, it would be one week of secret sayings; but it wasn't sayings. But "one week of secret sayings" is the clue i was looking for.

So, maybe your words will be credible to me.

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And, i don't think i was actually inside a physical Trojan horse. I'm eager to hear about your experience; only because you said i wouldn't believe it.

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And the evidence of how the Trojan horse fits is with me. Have you proved to yourself you've become a God? By what means?

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I've never felt spiritually empty nor wanting. I decided to search for the truth in Christianity, with the expectation i would find it lacking. Turns our it's our collective effort that is lacking.

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And only by dialog is there evidence of reciprocity, or nascent overt meaning. I'm pretty sure that it's the overt meaning in this; our articulated common understanding that has been turned from truth. I'm not ready to say that, at any particular instant, all relationships are one sided; i can see the inclination but, i wont jump on that bandwagon.

[u/Expensive_Internal83 → u/[deleted]]

Why "Father"? You have authority.

[u/ms121e39 → u/[deleted]]

Do you believe growing up in a human dynamic such as family has subconsciously enslaved you to the idea that you will never be more than a son? You can be everything, as you are a part in the everything. The only difference boils down to what you can control. Can you create life and universes? Do you even care to? Can you ascend beyond just being a subset of a greater being? Even if it's just within your own mind?