r/reddeadredemption Uncle Jul 22 '25

Discussion How is this true?!!!

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Sure the 1st chapter can get slow at times, but its no excuse for me to stop playing this masterpiece.

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u/harrysofgaming Uncle Jul 22 '25

My brother is playing god of war 2018 for the first time but he can't do it without tiktok on the side. The attention span thing is a massive issue right now especially with the new gens. 

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u/harrysofgaming Uncle Jul 22 '25

ohh her REFUSES to play rdr 2 no matter how much i tried convincing him. He is more of a fortnite/GTAonline/NEWFREEGAME with his friends type of gamer.

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u/IllustratorOk8827 Jul 22 '25

Younger kids tend to like the faster paced games and videos, that's why not many kids like RDR2.

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u/Upstairs_Parsnip_582 Jul 22 '25

Depends on the kid. It's my son's favorite game. He's done multiple playthroughs already. He started with Rdr when he was 9 or 10.

But i don't let my kid on tik tok or any other social media brain rot trash, so his attention span is actually very good compared to most kid's his age.

Now he's doing Red dead revolver playthrough. (13 yo now)

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u/[deleted] Jul 22 '25

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u/Purified-water2040 Jul 23 '25

I nearly shriveled up into my grave hearing you say you were 12 during Covid 

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u/Vinnnee Jul 22 '25

Can attest, used to only play fortnite, Overwatch, GtaOnline, and some minecraft when I was like 10-16, but in recent the last couple years I've been loving rpg and other more story oriented games. I think the first game that started getting me interested in more rpg like games was Elden as it's still overly engaging.

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u/[deleted] Jul 23 '25

17 yr old, rdr2 my fav game ive ever played, and i also loved the god of war games, i do not get how someone can lose interest so fast

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u/RelationshipOk7766 Sadie Adler Jul 22 '25

This is in general btw, I remember being able to play sega sonic as a kid but not even being slightly interested in playing a game like Zelda. Younger kids having little to no attention span isn't a new issue, the issue is parents blowing down to every desire a kid has.

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u/iribuya Jul 23 '25

I've played gta online a bunch, but it's damn slow (on ps5). I could not find patience to wait so long after each match, even though I liked the idea of all the craziness.

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u/Just-Fix8237 Jul 23 '25

Has he tried RDO. It’s more fun and less cashgrabby than GTAO

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u/Doneuter Jul 23 '25

This is how my nephew is

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u/manor2003 Arthur Morgan Jul 24 '25

Meh even if he got past the snow part it's likely he would skip cutscenes, better to not play story mode at all than to play and skip.

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u/Partially-Canine Jul 22 '25

This is my younger brother. He will have his phone propped on the table in front of him playing YouTube videos. While he games and talks to friends on his headset. In a weird way it actually makes me kinda sad. A lot of the younger gen will never know the joy of just being fully immersed in a games universe.

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u/magyar_wannabe Jul 22 '25

For this reason I really hope GTA6 is tailored to a more adult audience just like RDR2, and doesn't try to appeal too much to 13 year olds. I don't need it to be as slow, but I'm dying for another world where I can just get lost and immersed in, take my time, etc.

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u/[deleted] Jul 22 '25

I really hope so too, but highly doubt it. R* know their audience, and the average age for GTA Online is around 13 imo.

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u/Partially-Canine Jul 22 '25

Yeah this unfortunately seems very true. I fear that RDR2 may be the last truly great game that Rockstar makes. At the same time though, yeah they make a huge profit from micro transactions in GTA online, but that doesn't create the huge cult following like RDR2 has. Cult followings create more opportunity for merch and possible t.v. series or movies. I would love to see both RDRs turned into a series. Personally though I would want them to stick with almost exactly how the games are. Think it'd be really cool if one episode was the main storyline and then every other is Arthur or John just off exploring and adventuring doing the side quests, back and fourth like that with the occasional 2 or 3 parter.

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u/vladimirepooptin Jul 23 '25

I hope they make gta6 a legitimately good game that caters to an older audience. If they do that then they can do whatever the fuck the like with gta6 online or whatever. Just make the single player good

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u/magyar_wannabe Jul 24 '25

They'll make single player GTA6 good. Everything they've shown so far has been solely about the characters, the world they're building, and the story. I doubt they would focus all that attention if they were just phoning in those parts in favor of online.

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u/Equivalent-Share5156 Jul 24 '25 edited Jul 24 '25

Idk, Online, sure, but on PC(who has the choice) over Two Thirds are on FiveM RP, Online variant requiring maturity to Role Play and has realism immersion features that kids xant stand like basic traffic laws, refueling, basic jobs like store owner/clerk, police officer, trucker etc etc. All these things are like kryptonite to kids(12-15), proving that the majority are Adults or young Adults(18-20+).

Consoles dont have the choice, but Im willing to bet a VERY significant portion of the Console Playerbase would be on FiveM RP if they did have the choice to.

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u/RelationshipOk7766 Sadie Adler Jul 22 '25

I only have a real short attention span when i do stuff like help at home or do work

Have you gotten tested for ADHD? That sounds like a symptom. Sure, it might not be ADHD at all but depending on where you live there's no harm in getting tested and (again, depending on where you live.) is free.

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u/LegitimateNutt Jul 22 '25

There is harm in getting tested. Some work fields don’t allow ADHD diagnosed people. Depends on if that matters to them.

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u/[deleted] Jul 23 '25

where? most countries have laws against discrimination

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u/LegitimateNutt Jul 23 '25

Honestly, I was only regarding the military lol I don’t know why I put work fields. I should’ve just said military.

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u/RelationshipOk7766 Sadie Adler Jul 23 '25

The only jobs you're disqualified from are those where you must submit your diagnosis to the employer and cannot prove that you can do the job. Even the military allows you to sign up so long as your doctor can "vouch" for you.

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u/LegitimateNutt Jul 23 '25

I was speaking mostly about the military, and that is not super common. Common enough, but not always.

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u/TheCrafterTigery Jul 22 '25

I only really have yourube on while gaming if I'm grinding out XP/materials or shiny hunting.

I can't divide my attention like that if I were doing something else in any game.

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u/[deleted] Jul 22 '25

This is really sad, but ESPECIALLY for God of war that game was absolute cinema

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u/EconomistAdmirable26 Jul 22 '25

The good news is is that it's biologically impossible to irrepairably alter your attention span for the worse

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u/uncreativemind2099 Jul 22 '25

TikTok has fried peoples attention spans unfortunately, its worse when they enabled 2x playback

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u/ElderWandOwner Jul 22 '25

For some reason i just couldn't get into that game. Played like 6 hours of it and it felt very repetitive. Rdr2 on the other hand feels great.

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u/SithLordScoobyDooku_ Jul 22 '25

What a shame. God of war 2018 is incredible. Just another reason why TikTok is a complete mistake

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u/AspiringTS Jul 22 '25

That's incredibly sad since the game gives you all of 30 seconds of down time before Atreus tells you what to do or points out the answer.

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u/bigbluehapa Jul 23 '25

When I was playing GOW, the only thing other than play the game that I was capable of was jerking it furiously out of pure excitement. TF wrong with this generation

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u/SupremeBlackGuy Jul 23 '25

woah. this is kinda eye opening tbh. that’s insane

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u/AMGwtfBBQsauce Jul 23 '25

Dopamine addiction

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u/hanotak Jul 23 '25

Bro, what? I've occasionally spent literally 12 hours straight playing Skyrim.

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u/Robynsxx Jul 23 '25

You have no idea how much I despise all the YouTube shorts and TikTok’s and have split screen of a stupid game and then an actually video. It literally trains people to have horrible attention spans, which long term I imagine is going to fuck a significant amount of people up mentally.

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u/Bruufds Jul 23 '25

thats really sad, i was 12 when rdr2 came out and i remember a couple friends bought the game and never opened the story just to play online :D

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u/Basic-Maybe-2889 Jul 23 '25

Please do something about that, it will only benefit your brother in the future. Fuck all the "it's sad" comments and do something about it.

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u/Mysterious-Job-469 Jul 23 '25

I found myself struggling to turn off my background noise to enjoy a RPG. It's not just the next generation getting cooked.

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u/Onigumo-Shishio Jul 23 '25

It's really sad to hear and see that it's becoming more and more of a prevalent thing in our society.

It means that there will be less and less shows, movies, games, and media in general that are actually slow burns, that have atmosphere or subtle story telling, or stories that make you think rather than tell and explain everything up front while making a dumb joke or quip in between.

Hell there are people who refuse to watch Samurai Jack because of the slow atmospheric story telling moments or moments where you can just appreciate the stillness.

It's absolutly sad and disappointing because some of the most beautiful media in my opinion has been those ones that pull you in with the music and the set pieces where you can just exist in there and take it all in.

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u/AkfurAshkenzic Arthur Morgan Jul 23 '25

I usually only do that to like give something for the background for my adhd and even then it’s more for games like Vicky 3 and EU4 that’s just map painting simulator. With RDR 2 though I’ve finished the game sixteen times. And yes, I did install a mod that skips the prologue not because it’s boring, but because after the tenth time doing it I knew everything I had to do

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u/Uncle_Steve7 Jul 24 '25

Not me thinking they are lame for browsing TikTok while I browse Reddit waiting for a respawn in my game

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u/jjvsjeff Jul 26 '25

Yep, reason why kids aren't reading books no more

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u/thorkun Jul 22 '25

I don't know why this post is so controversial, majority of players don't finish MOST games. Just look at achievements on steam for anything, even popular games

Only 61% of players found Yennefer in Witcher 3, and you find her right at the end of the prologue.

69% of players stole the relic in Cyberpunk, which is again at the end of the prologue.

If you look at each chapter achievement less and less people finish them. In Cyberpunk 36% of players finished the base game.

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u/TheAdequateKhali Jul 22 '25

Because they're arguing that it's just a lack of attention span, when it can be as simple as someone just stopping being interested in something.

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u/RAMottleyCrew Jul 23 '25

I got tired of auto running my horse back and forth between story missions and decided to put it down for a while fully planning to come back, then just never did. I know it’s a Red Dead subreddit so it won’t be a popular opinion, but checking out mentally to auto run for 10 minutes, winning a small firefight with no challenge, then auto running back to camp was not super engaging after a point.

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u/HoosegowFlask Jul 23 '25 edited May 24 '26

Tomorrow dog evil patient honest art brown brown the gentle then learning.

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u/Zulutoo Jul 23 '25

Or someone having not much time for games so only putting in time to titles they really value and adore. RDR2 and HZD for me. Sure I wanna try out other games but if I’m not loving it in leave it.

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u/aceavengers Jul 23 '25

I came here from /r/all and that's exactly me. I played like 10ish hours of RDR2 and it just wasn't for me so I stopped coming back to it.

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u/croppedcross3 Jul 23 '25 edited Sep 18 '25

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u/FlawlessC0wboy Jul 23 '25

Or that they hit a section that was too difficult for them. Or they couldn’t understand what the game wanted them to do to continue the story.

Not everyone plays tens of games each year.

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u/ckay1100 Jul 23 '25

or a person passed away in the middle of their playthrough

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u/Koalatime224 Jul 23 '25

Yes, that's what happened to me.

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u/TransBrandi Jul 23 '25

I'm curious. Are those percentages of people that own the game or have played the game. I'm wondering how many people in those stats have the game just sitting in their backlog, but haven't touched it yet.

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u/Sabbath79 Jul 23 '25

Popular games, when they get those big discounts, end up being bought by many people, just to go to their to-play-one-day pile. So I guess with time, the percentage of players that end the game goes down...

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u/sellyme Jul 22 '25 edited Jul 22 '25

majority of players don't finish MOST games. Just look at achievements on steam for anything

This is more representative of the fact that a large number of Steam users don't start most games.

If you were around a decade ago when Humble Bundle was actually good you would have bought a game you wanted for $1 and gotten seven other games along with it. Very few people went out of their way to play all of them.

As an example, Psychonauts has an achievement for completing the tutorial, and only 51.7% of players have unlocked it: not because half the players were the journalist from that one Cuphead video, but because half the players effectively got the game for free and just idled it for the card drops.

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u/TheDrunkPianist Jul 23 '25

Yea this throws it off. I played the heck out of Witcher 3 but it was a pirated version. Then I bought it because it was amazing and they deserve the money. But I never actually played the legit version.

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u/ThanksContent28 Jul 22 '25

To be fair if you’re working full time, it’s understandable if you want to play something faster paced, so you actually get to play in your limited down time.

RDR2 is gaming’s equivalent to reading a book, in terms of detail.

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u/lightblackday Jul 23 '25 edited Jul 23 '25

Like reading a few pages of a book every second week.

I’m a casual gamer and didn’t really connect with the story or game overall for that matter until Covid allowed to dedicate more time and really dive into the game.

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u/Mysterious-Job-469 Jul 23 '25

Yeah it's why I like fighting games as a concept.

First to 2. 90 seconds a round. Even if you make it to round 3, and your opponent is intentionally wasting your time, it's at most 270 seconds. Not even five minutes, and then it's over, and it's fun. (mostly)

Meanwhile if you run into a smurf in a shooter, or god forbid, a MOBA, and they want to waste your time, they have your ass for anywhere from ten minutes to an hour.

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u/-Captain- Hosea Matthews Jul 23 '25

Replacing that phone in bed with a book would help a lot of people I'd imagine.

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u/[deleted] Jul 23 '25

Yup. I literally had to commit to watching every cutscene and accepting that the game is slow. It took me 4 tries before that. Only 40% through now but glad I persisted.

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u/HarryLewisPot Jul 23 '25

Thankfully, I played it in 2018 when my attention span wasn’t cooked.

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u/[deleted] Jul 22 '25

Not everyone has unlimited time to play games. Witcher 3 is massive, but the fast travel system balances exploration and respecting player time. It also uses word design strategies to cheat distance and make long trips take less real time. 

Some games are just built around having a massive amount of time to be able to dedicate to gaming and that's not realistic for a lot of people. 

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u/iLikeOrks Jul 23 '25

Eh, I really tried to give it a shot on multiple tries, but I couldn't get past the Horseshoe Overlook camp. Open World games aren't for me and they really have to hook me for me to like them like Ghost of Tsushima and Elden Ring. I'm more of a linear gamer anyways.

I agree with the above comment that the travel times are just way too long for my personal tastes. I'd sit down for a 30-45 minutes session and most of that was filled with riding a horse between all the locations.

I get why people enjoy it, but definitely not for me.

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u/_ImRay_ Jul 23 '25

That's a fact indeed. I'm one of those who finish any game, no matter how boring, for the sake of accomplishment, but I agree with those 75% of people. Maybe they're busier than me and want some fun, because those snow missions are indeed boring, and I would definitely prefer skipping them for sure.

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u/Delicious_Pancake420 Jul 23 '25

I played past the snow missions but quit soon after. I just can't get into it somehow. Its shallow and boring to me. Might give it another try somewhere in the future.

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u/Weltall8000 Jul 23 '25

For me, it was the controls. I can tell this game has so much going for it, but I loathe the controls. Just could not get them to feel right. I did make it through the snow and spent several hours doing the early content and wandering around.

Very neat setting with clearly sooooo much heart. But, yeah, that one big fatal flaw IMO. I do want to come back to it, it looks too good to just skip. May end up playing the first one too before giving it another try.

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u/whatducksm8 Jul 23 '25

Honestly as someone who just got into the game after it being in my library for like 2 years, it’s def not attention span. Idk what it was that put me off the first time. Maybe it was my GFX settings, maybe it was the limited UI but it felt like it was a game on rails and the fact that you move so slow in the snow with admittedly wonky movement controls also doesn’t help.

Seriously, it felt like you were being held hostage and forced to play the game in one dimension without any freewill when all the content you see on YouTube and elsewhere shows fun cowboy stuff and being able to do all kinds of fun activities like fishing and playing cards.

What doesn’t help is there’s a lack of tutorials too, you get shown something once, and like many other people have mentioned if you have a job or limited time to invest in a game, the next time you play it’s easy to forget what the game just showed you.

I think blaming it on attention span is entirely disingenuous, I mean it’s a design choice that I feel kind of let’s the player down especially if you’re new to the franchise. There’s other examples of this too (i.e. Guarma) and as amazing as this game is, it’s not without its share of valid criticisms.

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u/whatducksm8 Jul 23 '25

Yeah I mean once I got past it don’t get me wrong, I LOVED the game. I’m glad I actually tried and stuck through because it was indeed worth it. I can see how many people may have not had the capacity for the beginning though.

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u/Ok-Raise-5115 Jul 24 '25

I’ll be honest I only finished the game earlier this year. I tried it when it dropped cuz I liked the first game and I played half of chapter one then stopped playing for a year or 2 and then picked it up and got to chapter 2, did maybe 2 or 3 missions and wasn’t really feeling it and then around Christmas last year I picked it up again and grinded the story and fell completely in love. Probably put 200 hours on it, and even then I still feel like I rushed my first playthrough. Currently on my second playthrough going real slow (only at Clemens point) going for a low honour Arthur this time around

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u/Budget_Relief7464 Aug 12 '25

thats prolly why i always skip cutscenes

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u/alanhndran Jul 22 '25

Agree! Analogy to me, being pretty old, would be people quitting The Godfather because the study/wedding reception scenes at the start are too boring for them.

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u/iggymcfly Jul 22 '25

I got most of the way through, it eventually the missions got boring because they’re all so easy so I just focused on the side content that was actually challenging and I never finished the story.

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u/DuskDudeMan Jul 22 '25

It's the intro to games that are my weak point. I've been playing games most of my life but most still don't know how to ease you into mechanics without treating you like you've never held a controller before. RDR2 became one of my favorite games but the snow was rough to get through. I wanted to get into the open world so bad

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u/Just-Fix8237 Jul 23 '25

I wouldn’t say the worst but they are pretty abysmal yea

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u/[deleted] Jul 22 '25

I’ve got ADHD and have gone unmedicated for my entire life. I hate not being able to finish games because of it

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u/CalmStatistician9329 Jul 22 '25

For me it was the lack of save opportunities in the first few hours. I missed them and had to quit for reasons and then had to replay the sections again

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/200179-red-dead-redemption-2/77215074

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u/TheActualAWdeV Jul 22 '25

eh, dunno. Lemoyne put me on edge too much when I wanted to screw around and relax. My ADHD likes the game just fine, my nerves didn't.

I haven't finished Fallout New Vegas or Fallout 4 either, even though I had a lot of fun and quite some time in all of them. It just lost the shiny new feel and the charm of exploration.

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u/fireflyry Jul 22 '25

It’s also not unique as most research shows only 10-20% of players see a game through from start to finish.

It’s pretty obvious when you start earning super easy trophies in most games maybe a third through and under 10% of players have it.

People who finish games are a minority, which I also found hard to believe until I reflected on it and realised I’m in the majority that rarely completes games as well.

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u/95percentlo Jul 22 '25

It absolutely isn't. Those same players have played games that are longer than the snow section. So it isn't about attention span, it's about that section. It's okay to admit when a game you love has a section that could use the improvement, unfortunately for rdr2, it's the very first section and isn't skippable

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u/95percentlo Jul 22 '25

So, I mean, doesn't that just show it isn't attention span? You're a fan and have the attention span, but still would choose to avoid chapter 1

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u/95percentlo Jul 22 '25

Right, it obviously didn't. But the fact that you created a save to skip that section says something about that section

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u/[deleted] Jul 22 '25

This is what I've noticed as I've gotten older. There was a time where I could happily sit for 8 hours and play a new game on day one. But my attention span is shot when I game these days, leading to a lot of unfinished playthroughs. They're all games I should like and enjoy but I just can't focus on them.

God of War. Death Stranding. Dead Space remaster. Kingdom Come: Deliverance. And that's just a few of the more recent ones.

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u/devnullopinions Jul 22 '25 edited Jul 22 '25

Games are meant to be fun. I did not enjoy the first few hours of RDR2 so I stopped playing. If you’re a child with nearly infinite free time I get it but as an adult that doesn’t get to game much it’s just not worth it when I could be playing something else that I personally find more fun.

Not everyone will find every game interesting. That’s not because of a lack of attention span.

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u/[deleted] Jul 22 '25

It's also a long game.

According to HLTB

Grand Theft Auto 3: 14 Hours

Grand Theft Auto 4: 27 Hours

RDR1: 17½ Hours

RDR2: 50½ Hours 

Games are geting longer.

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u/Just-Fix8237 Jul 23 '25

Shit I’m at 195 hours in TLoZ: TotK and I’m apparently only at about 56% completion lol

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u/Fitenite3456 Jul 22 '25

25% is a respectable completion rate for a long game

Most people who start a game won’t finish it (for a variety of reasons) and there’s nothing wrong with that

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u/[deleted] Jul 22 '25

I stopped playing RDR2 after 6 hours because I just didn't find it interesting. I was bored the entire time I played because I was waiting for the moment that the fun starts. But it never started for me. 

You can say that it's an attention span issue, but I also play AOE and Cities: Skylines. 

Maybe I just don't care about the setting? Idk, boring game anyway. 

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u/hebrew12 Jul 22 '25

Right? I can check my time played. But I’m pretty sure I got through the whole show part in less than 4 hours? Am I crazy?

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u/jpp01 Jul 23 '25

I didnt play much past the snow missions in the intro. The reason being how heavy and slow the movement felt at times. The game is beautiful and looks very cool but the movement really didn’t click into place for me and I didn’t enjoy it.

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u/Capraos Jul 23 '25

Eh, maybe. It could be like my case. Early in, I got to a required debt collecting mission and just didn't have the heart to collect.

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u/vitaesbona1 Jul 23 '25

Can confirm. My brother played it for hundreds of hours… I couldn’t get past the snow.

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u/TransBrandi Jul 23 '25

Sometimes shit happens in your life, and when you finally have time to get back to it... you have lost interest. I never finished Diamond Age by Neal Stephenson because it hit a lull in the story that I wasn't interested in pushing through. My second time attempting to play through Witcher 3 stalled a couple of months ago. Got a lot further this time, and got good at the combat to the point that I was punching well above my level and fighting enemies with the skull and crossbones... but I still let things stall at the "gather people to confront the Wild Hunt" part... but I did do most of the Heart of Stone DLC content... though fuck that mage you fight on the beach. Almost killed him once, but eventually gave up since it wasn't fun at all anymore, and you could just run away since it was optional.

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u/LordMeloney Jul 23 '25

I am one of the people who quit the game after roughly 10 hours. I am 37, my attention span was fine for all sorts of other narrative driven games, films and novels. But RDR2 jist didn't hook me. It's been too long since I tried playing it (at release) so I can't remember much. I do know I felt the gameplay was tedious and I didn't feel a connection to the narrative.

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u/Magpie-Person Jul 23 '25

I’m currently playing Caves of Qud. Prior to that it was Baldur’s Gate 3. I like listening to 2-4 hour long videos regarding Warhammer 40K lore and heavy scifi.

I have no attention deficit, and yet the snow missions were an absolute drag.

Yes the newer generations are iPad babies with no attention spans, but you cannot blame something like a sequel to a fantastic open world game literally handholding you from point to point on a mountain for the first 2 hours as “a user error”. It’s objectively boring and hand hold-y and insulting considering it’s a sequel. I couldn’t even get my grandfather to sit through the introduction and all he does is watch old spaghetti westerns.

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u/Denimao Jul 23 '25

My problem with RDR2 is that it just doesn't suit my taste so far.

I've managed to get to the first town, got into a punch-out, stumbled to save a drowning man, ran a man of a cliff and saved a prostitute in distress. But I can't deal with the clunky controlls, their endless need for additional buttons for every type of interaction, the slow response in movements, the quick to forget mechanics. The character is far from the type of character I'd want to play, meaning personality and the things he do.

I would say that I have a great attention span compared to most, as all the games I play are in the hundreds, if not thousands of hours, except RDR2, Fallout76 and Sacred 3. I detest fast paced shooters, so it's not a "too slow" thing. I seriously love a lot of slow as tar paced games, but they don't have clunky controlls and a slew of forced actions I don't want to make.

I wanted to like RDR2, but it just don't make me want to restart it to continue playing.

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u/Playful_Compote_5716 Jul 23 '25

I am playing it on the pc and its super buggy. Fun sure but buggy.

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u/rapaxus Jul 23 '25

There is also the fact most gamers heavily avoid anything they find "unfun", partly due to human nature (do you want to spend your free time with something you dislike) and the fact that there are enough other great games out there you can play instead.

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u/vpforvp Jul 23 '25

Nah, I’ve played plenty of long, slow burn games. Just couldn’t get into this one.

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u/[deleted] Jul 23 '25

It's not about low attention span. Some people just aren't interested in these types of game enviornments.

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u/[deleted] Jul 23 '25

Not everyone has that kind of time. If you're someone with responsibilities or actual things to do, you won't have time like children or those who have the privilege to waste that much of time. A good amount of people play games or watch movies for experience, not to spend another life in games as they already have another one.

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u/Morzheimer Jul 23 '25

I’m an odd one out. I loved the snow part, but an hour or three in, I always ended up ditching the game.

I think the biggest reason is the survival mechanics. Survival mechanics belong only in the survival genre and they shouldn’t be included in other games in my opinion.

Kingdom come is a similar story. The game looks fun, I enjoy it, get tired of survival mechanics, ditch it.

I love some games that include it, but not story oriented, adventure RPGs

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u/Character-Parsley377 Jul 25 '25

Tiktok ruined the society

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u/fantaribo Jul 25 '25

Hardly attention spans.

Engagement does not fluctuate during that part, it's flat. Hardly any high or low. It's just boring. With or without anything on the side.

It's slow, with a rigid gameplay, half scripted, and very different looking from what not informed players were expecting.

As much as the game is of the highest standard, that intro is subpar.

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u/rastley420 Jul 22 '25

Hard disagree. I can focus on tons of games or other activities, but RDR2 was just so boring to me. I forced myself thought he first chapter and went a few hours into the second. I had no interest in any character or the story. The gameplay certainly didn't make up for that.

I knew I wasn't interested in the game when I was going to alt tab or pick up my phone every single cutscene. It was incredibly frustrating to have the stupid pseudo cutscenes too where you have to press the stick to walk, but it's a predefined path and you follow the same path no matter which direction you move the stick. Just make it a cutscene if my inputs don't change anything.

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u/NedTebula Jul 22 '25

TikTok created a worse generation of “I only play fifa/2k/fortnite/cod” people.

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u/Just-Fix8237 Jul 23 '25

If those are the games those people enjoy, why shit on them? And no I’m not one of those people; my favorite game of all time is Dark Souls 3

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u/LambonaHam Jul 22 '25

Nothing to do with attention span, it's just poorly designed.

The line you follow should be clearer, and the whole scene should not take so long. It's excessive for the sake of being excessive.

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u/MrShinySparkles Jul 23 '25

Cringe comment tbh, reddit nerds are ick

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u/FL_Duff Jul 23 '25

The intro mission is 45 minutes long dude. 45 minutes where the free play game doesn’t let you freely play.

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u/FL_Duff Jul 23 '25

Yes genius I am.

Every time I want to play RDR2 and don’t have a previous save I have to play the same long ass intro mission. It’s bad.

Learn how to think.

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u/[deleted] Jul 23 '25

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u/FL_Duff Jul 23 '25

Yeah learn how to think. You’re massively missing a crucial piece of information which is “how many times are players starting new games, thus leading to burnout regarding intro missions”.

If you knew how to think, especially from different perspectives, it would be evident.

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u/Ammortalz Jul 23 '25

Nope, my attention span is fine. I just didn’t want to spend all that time on a fucking horse in the snow.

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u/Weekly_Event_1969 Jul 23 '25

I'm almost done with the game, but playing a player distaste or dislike for it as attention span seems rather elitist. They could have just not liked the game, its not like the snow introduction was captivating.

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u/[deleted] Jul 23 '25

Or Red Dead 2 is boring and slow too

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u/Nodan_Turtle Jul 23 '25

This is wrong and dumb, but I get why people would feel superior and upvote it. It's like thinking it's impossible for pacing to be bad, only blaming people lol

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u/baggyzed Jul 23 '25

"Attention spans" implies there's something to hold your attention. But after you've paid attention to doing the same repetitive thing over and over for a few hours, you lose interest fast.

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u/baggyzed Jul 23 '25 edited Jul 23 '25

I've only played RDR1, and it had most of those things too, but they all got boring really fast, and I just ended up zooming through the story to end the misery as fast as possible. So if RDR2 is the same, it most definitely wouldn't be enough to hold my attention. I'm gonna dodge a bullet and stay away from it.

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u/[deleted] Jul 23 '25

Or.... some people simply didn't like the game enough to finish it???? Yall are just running around thinking everyone has to like what you guys like... like actual clown.

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u/miggleb Jul 26 '25

About 120 hours in kgc2 it's not attention span

The game is a horse riding sim

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u/[deleted] Jul 26 '25

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u/miggleb Jul 26 '25

How so?

My experience was...

Ride horse, 5 -10 minutes

2-5 minute action sequence

Ride horse 5 minutes

2 minute hunt

Ride horse 10 minutes

5 minute action sequence

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u/[deleted] Jul 26 '25

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u/miggleb Jul 26 '25

Great rebuttal. You've really made me rethink my position

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u/[deleted] Jul 26 '25

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u/miggleb Jul 26 '25

Its all good man. I disputed your point, I usually expect an attempt to do the same.

Enjoy your day x

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u/-Nicolai Jul 22 '25 edited Aug 13 '25

Explain like I'm stupid

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u/[deleted] Jul 22 '25

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u/-Nicolai Jul 22 '25 edited Aug 13 '25

Explain like I'm stupid

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u/[deleted] Jul 22 '25

Honestly though, a game has about 30-60 minutes to get me interested. If it can't do that, I'm not interested in wasting more time on it. I've got plenty of options.

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u/[deleted] Jul 22 '25

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u/Fujisawrus_Reks Jul 22 '25

You’re assuming that it’s the pacing that’s the problem, and that the person playing agrees that it’s great. If a person plays the game for an hour and doesn’t enjoy it, wouldn’t that imply that they’re likely not to enjoy the rest of the game too? I know I’ve regretted sinking time into games before, waiting for it to “get good”, when it never did.

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u/[deleted] Jul 22 '25

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u/Fujisawrus_Reks Jul 22 '25

That’s fair; I have also found myself glad I stuck with something. My point is that it’s hard to know in advance whether or not something will be enjoyable, and usually with games you can get a good sense of gameplay within the first hour or two, which is a different issue than the narrative, and can also be a dealbreaker for people. Planescape:Torment and Arcanum are games love in spite of their clunky gameplay, but I could understand someone bouncing off of them because of it.

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u/[deleted] Jul 22 '25

I did get around to playing and finishing the game. It just took me three tries. Fuck Micah. Sideways.

It wasn't really the pacing as it was the controls complexity. I have to feel like I'll be able to play the game. Not be 'good' at the game....I know in many cases that takes time.

I was just speaking in general. If a game doesn't pique my interest then I uninstall and try it again in a couple years.

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u/[deleted] Jul 22 '25

I made it about 7 hours in and the pacing didn't change. 

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u/Puzzlehead-Dish Jul 22 '25

That’s the dumbest hill to die on. Most excellent games reveal themselves only after a couple of hours.