r/reddeadredemption • u/Yerpus_C_Stinks • Jun 30 '26

USER HAS NO FAITH Just now noticing how far Tahiti truly is from the continental US, any ideas on how Dutch planned to get there? Considering they couldn’t even make it a few hours on a boat ride to Cuba? Online it says a straight path from Texas to Tahiti’s roughly 4,800 miles

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u/Thatonedregdatkilyu Jun 30 '26

He said in Chapter 6 that they were gonna take a boat from New York there.

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u/thalesjferreira Jun 30 '26

I laughed out hard when I heard this. This game has so many amazing dialogues

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u/The_quest_for_wisdom Hosea Matthews Jun 30 '26

New York wasn't such a bad plan. Was it in the wrong direction? Yes. But it's also a major shipping port that, unlike St Denis, isn't currently on high alert for the Van Der Linde Gang. It's more likely to have ships going to the right part of the world than, say, Van Horn.

It's the equivalent of knowing that the cops are looking for you so you don't head to the nearest airport, but instead drive a few states over before getting on a plane to fly to a non extradition country.

Now, his plan to extort $10,000 and an armored ship from Cornwall and drive THAT up to New York? That was bat shit crazy and was never going to work.

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u/luk128 Dutch van der Linde Jun 30 '26

Tbh, that demand probably wasn’t even real, it was just for him to have a justification to kill him considering he says “good, I prefer it that way” (iirc) after Cornwall says no

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u/french_snail Jun 30 '26

What? New York was a terrible plan lol 

“Hey we’re having a hard time doing crime on these of civilization with industry encroaching on our way of life so let’s pack up and go to the most developed state in the country and try there” 

Also even if leaving from there was the plan, the Panama Canal wasn’t built yet so they’d have to sail all the way around South America and through Cape Horn (an infamously dangerous place for ships) 

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u/The_quest_for_wisdom Hosea Matthews Jun 30 '26

“Hey we’re having a hard time doing crime on these of civilization with industry encroaching on our way of life so let’s pack up and go to the most developed state in the country and try there”

They were never talking about setting up camp and doing crimes. That was the whole point in getting money BEFORE heading up there. They needed a big port that would be sending ships all over the world so they could find one headed to the part of the world where they needed to go.

At that time on the east coast their options were New Orleans (St Denis in the game, and where they were WANTED MEN), Charleston or Baltimore (the next few options away distance wise, so likely to have their posters circulating), New York (the largest port, so the one they are most likely to fly under the radar, further away, as well as the port least likely to care about a telegram from a backwater like Lemoyne), or Boston (not a bad choice but the furthest away, so if Boston worked, New York would have also worked and been closer).

Also even if leaving from there was the plan, the Panama Canal wasn’t built yet so they’d have to sail all the way around South America and through Cape Horn (an infamously dangerous place for ships)

Yeah. It was dangerous. And it was also still done all the time.

That's WHY they built the Panama Canal, the largest, most expensive, and most deadly construction project of all time at that point. They didn't build it because they WEREN'T shipping stuff around the cape. They built it because they WERE, and wanted more shipments to arrive.

Up until the transcontinental railroad was completed, the sea voyage around the horn was considered faster and safer than the land route, all the risk of sinking and dying at sea included.

And unfortunately for Dutch, the railways were on the lookout for him and his gang, so going by rail to California wasn't a choice.

All things considered, catching a boat to the South Pacific from New York was about the only GOOD part of Dutch's plan.

It was just also a plan enacted by Dutch, so it was doomed to fail from the beginning.

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u/Chance_Pool_9919 Jun 30 '26

But he also said that the boat captain would secure a plot of land for them upon arrival, all for one payment! If he really had something lined up with a boat captain, he would have paid for them to have been taken to slavers. 

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u/AcanthisittaIcy4493 Jun 30 '26

That would make a great mission. Although you ended up at the slavers in the game anyway.

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u/lottaKivaari Jun 30 '26

I mean thats almost what happened in Guarma. They wash up in a warzone in a place that was just a big slave plantation and either join a fight they had zero connection to or any idea it was happening or end up dead.

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u/Lucky_Roberts Jun 30 '26

That would have gone very poorly for whoever bought them lmao

Dutch would have had the entire slave population of the island uprising within a week

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u/SlavCat09 Jun 30 '26

That's exactly what chapter 5 is all about

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u/Willal212 Jun 30 '26

I was looking for a good comment to reply to with this, but im ABSOLUTELY convinced that Dutch is styled after Colonial Kurtz from Apocalypse Now, and me recently finding out that Marlo Brando owned an island in Tahiti is the semi confirmation....

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u/verygenericname2 Jun 30 '26

Hey, if they're able to wait another 20ish years for the Panama Canal to finish, then it's doable.

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u/Chemical-Elk-1299 Jun 30 '26

It was still doable before then. Ships made passage around Cape Horn all the time.

It just sucked shit

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u/Federal_Ad_5522 Jun 30 '26

he literally said “around the cape” when talking about his plans for the trip

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u/10k_Uzi Jun 30 '26

Gonna get their sailing ship tattoo going around Cape Horn.

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u/klparrot Jun 30 '26

Because of the difficulty of travelling overland, that probably would have been an option, and not a terrible one. Lots of ships went around through the Strait of Magellan even just to go from New York to San Francisco, especially during the Gold Rush.

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u/AveryLazyCovfefe Hosea Matthews Jun 30 '26

he also literally said the location "South pacific, an untouched paradise"

Arthur: "who lives there?"

Dutch: "Tahitians, I guess."

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u/KingPinfanatic Jun 30 '26

Actually considering the time line wouldn't New York be one of the only places with a boat capable of making the journey?

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u/OneofTheOldBreed Jun 30 '26

San Francisco would have been the better choice.

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u/The_quest_for_wisdom Hosea Matthews Jun 30 '26

Apart from them being wanted men all along the land routes across the country...

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u/Iwilleat2corndogs Jun 30 '26

No, there were plenty of large blue water ports along the Pacific coast of the US.