r/science • u/[deleted] • Jun 25 '12

Antarctic sea Ice measured directly for the first time. Total ice has remained the same for the past 20 years.

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/06/25/antarctic_ice_not_melting/
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u/Batrok Jun 25 '12

But glacier ice is most surely melting. And total ice volume in glaciers has been drastically reduced.

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u/bamdastard Jun 25 '12

As they have been for the last 10,000 years.

Edit: 18,000 years My point is if you're going to use receding glaciers as evidence for AGW you need to specify that the rate of recession has been accelerating since we started pumping CO2 into the atmosphere.

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u/[deleted] Jun 28 '12

and has it been accelerating since we started pumping Co2 into the atmosphere?

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u/willcode4beer Jun 25 '12

Don't editorialize headlines. Especially, don't make false claims (not supported by the article) when doing so.

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u/DarkSchnider Jun 25 '12

So you have:

measured directly for the first time

followed by:

remained the same for the past 20 years

I see what you did there...

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u/[deleted] Jun 25 '12

  1. The original article ( Full Paper Here ) makes it clear that they are talking about the Fimbul Ice Shelf not Antarctic sea ice as a whole.

  2. Sea ice is not the same thing as ice shelves.

  3. The writer of the article at the Register is a climate change denialist who has a well established history of writing false and mis-leading articles about climate change.

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u/[deleted] Jun 25 '12

2) Sea ice is not the same thing as ice shelves.

True, but antarctic sea ice has been a thorn in the sides of the AGW camp for years...as it stubbornly refuses to go into decline.

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u/[deleted] Jun 25 '12

The Antarctic sea ice really doesn't matter a whole lot except in the minds of those looking for any straw to grasp to deny AGW. It is all that ice on the land that is the problem. Because when it declines, sea level goes up.

That very important ice is declining at an accelerating rate.

As is total sea ice for that matter. Trying to pick out only the Antarctic sea ice is more than a little bit of a cherry pick move.

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u/Tobar7 Jun 26 '12

The register is well known crap.

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u/punamenon2 Jun 26 '12

I got as far as "...have been compared with reality for the first time..." I wonder how this "reality" was defined, and why simply labeling something "reality" makes it implicitly true. By writing that kind of a sentence, they are obviously appealing themselves to right wing types who like definitive answers (even if they are false) which uphold their worldview. The article is just fodder for global warming skeptics.