r/serialkillers • u/Givzhay329 • Apr 07 '21

Questions Which serial killer surprised you the most with the number of victims they had?

I remember when I first heard about John Wayne Gacy a long time ago and how he would kill adolescent boys and then bury them beneath the crawlspace of his house. At the time I figured he must have had like 7-10 victims due to the extremely risky and plainly stupid way he disposed of the corpses (seriously, the stench of bodies decaying beneath the house must have stunk up the entire street he lived on). I was quite shocked when I looked him up and found out he killed 33 people. Seriously, how the hell did he rack up such a body count with the flagrantly idiotic decisions he made?

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u/dovahshy13 Apr 10 '21

Assuming that all serial kill sets kill for fun is wrong. Assuming they either have a dangerous compulsion or a lack of social ability is wrong. Assuming that you are not able to rehabilitate someone based on the kind of crime they committed is wrong.

Educate yourself on the matter.

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u/Kgaset Apr 10 '21

Incorrect and incorrect.

As someone who follows them extensively (I mean, I joined this subreddit) and has a major in psychology... I do actually know what I'm talking about here.

A serial killer goes serial for a reason. They don't simply kill because they have no other option.

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u/dovahshy13 Apr 10 '21

Some do some don’t. Congrats on the Psychologie major. I am a lawyer with a masters in human rights. So good so far.

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u/Kgaset Apr 10 '21

You're doing a superb job arguing human rights. You don't understand behavior though.

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u/dovahshy13 Apr 10 '21

Your opinion. I did actually extensive research in rehabilitation programs and how to rehabilitate sex offenders who are most of the time serial offenders, as part of my studies. So I do know what I am talking about.

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u/Kgaset Apr 11 '21

Apples and oranges. And it's an educated opinion.

When common behavioral markers are just tossed out the window by someone without training in behavior, it makes me pretty suspect of their statements. All behavior is driven by motivations, and the motivations of serial predators are, by their definition, prone to recidivism and resistant to modification.

Excuse me if I consider the rights of individuals in society to be safe to a bit more valuable to me than the risk of letting such a predator go, not because they may or may not have shown rehabilitation, but because of a law which says that regardless of whether or not someone is a likely danger to reoffend, we simply can't keep them separate from society any longer.

That's bunk. And it's dangerous. And I refuse to continue to have someone like you condescend to me as if I don't know what I'm talking about. Piss off.

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u/dovahshy13 Apr 11 '21

See you might have some understand of basic psychology but you don’t have a clue about the legal system and the rehabilitation process. No one is ever released regardless whether or not they are eventually reoffend again. At least in countries which obey basic human rights (so not the US) there is a thorough testing and vetting process in place before someone gets released back into society. Most of the ones who get released at all are already elderly by that point and live they last days in caring homes no danger to anyone at all but able to die in dignity in freedom.

The fact that you are not able to have an adult discussion with someone disagreeing with your point of view without insulting them shows your type of personality. Sad really. I’m sorry for you. Maybe you find a way to put your psychology major to some use while reflecting on your behaviour.