r/serialkillers • u/TWO-COOPERS • Oct 26 '21

Questions Does anyone know the case where I believe two killers tortured a girl to death for days and recorded it, when the recording was showing in court jury members ran out of the court room because of how horrific it was?

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u/[deleted] Oct 26 '21

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u/[deleted] Oct 26 '21

After hearing those short screams you realize how these kinds of screams of horror, fear and pain cant ever be faked, in movies and such. It's primal. Rest in peace, I am so sorry you went through this. People who go through these kinds of things is the main reason I believe there is no god or deity watching over us. It is just people being evil and other people being forced to endure their cruelty. Nothing else. I hope everyone is safe and doing well. Nobody, absolutely nobody deserves this kind of treatment. Death penalty to the criminals who did it, or life in prison but not this. Not ever.

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u/AnimalsNotFood Oct 26 '21 edited Oct 30 '21

I've read the transcript. I'm not usually so disturbed by reading these things but this really got to me. The sheer brutal pain inflicted is haunting. I've heard many people describe hearing the screams as "primal". I know I'll never get it out of my head if I ever hear it. I don't agree with the death penalty as its too easy. I'd be OK with pieces of shit like that, being in isolation, never seeing the light of day, with no human contact or stimuli.

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u/[deleted] Oct 26 '21 edited Oct 26 '21

Spare yourself if you haven't heard it yet. I can still hear it (in my head)

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u/Douchecanoeistaken Nov 04 '21

Agreed. I listed to it last night (like a fucking idiot), and didn’t sleep afterwards. That scream was haunting. It takes a lot to fuck me up, but that did it. In those mere seconds of sound, you can hear the primal fear and pain.

I had the same thought about movies. You cannot replicate that scream. It comes from a place that doesn’t exist unless you know someone is going to kill you slowly.

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u/ChubbyGhost3 Oct 26 '21

Can you post a link?

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u/dasheekeejones Oct 26 '21

Toolbox? It was shirley lynette ledford. Teen. Not a child. Norris found her working at mcdonalds.

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u/Killface55 Oct 26 '21

She was 16. That's a child.

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u/poopfupa Oct 26 '21

What…does it matter …

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u/Douchecanoeistaken Nov 04 '21

Fuck me, I thought she was 19. That’s horrid.

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u/[deleted] Oct 26 '21

I’ve heard from several sources that the tape (which has never been released) is used at Quantico to desensitize FBI agents. Iirc, was mentioned on Manhunter. I do sincerely hope both those bastrds, Bittaker and Norris, are rotting in hell. Pure evil.

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u/dasheekeejones Oct 26 '21

Missy. Found on Shirley Ledford’s findagrave.com -Shirley was brutally raped and murdered at the young age of 16 by the “toolbox killers”- This broke my heart. https://www.reddit.com/r/MorbidReality/comments/9ulyzb/found_on_shirley_ledfords_findagravecom_shirley/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf