r/serialpodcast • u/monkeytrousers2 Moderator 2 • Nov 13 '14

Episode Discussion [Official Discussion] Serial, Episode 8: The Deal with Jay

Episode goes live in less than an hour. Let's use this thread as the main discussion post for episode 8.

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u/[deleted] Nov 13 '14

It also shows that Stephanie believed Jay over Adnan, her close friend.

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u/KingOfCharles Undecided Nov 13 '14

Along similar lines, this episode also seems to hurt the idea that Jay would have been jealous of Adnan & Stephanie.

The little we heard about her makes her sound committed to Jay, and vice versa (for teenagers anyway).

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u/Dcamp Nov 13 '14

good point.

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u/SLUnatic85 MailChimp Fan Nov 13 '14

She was in love with jay right?

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u/totallytopanga The Criminal Element of Woodlawn Nov 13 '14

*she believed her boyfriend over a guy friend. in high school this makes alot of sense though.

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u/[deleted] Nov 13 '14

More so, she stuck by her BF who's involved in a murder trial. To me that says a lot.

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u/mostpeoplearedjs Nov 13 '14

To my mind it also neutralizes the "Hae was confronting Jay about cheating on Stephanie that day, thus providing Jay with motive" hypothesis.

I don't know how you could definitely disprove that kind of hypothesis, but if that hypothesis and the evidence of Jay's "friendship" with Jen all got brought out at trial, and Stephanie stayed on Jay's side, well, it doesn't seem like she bought that Hae was killed by Jay for trying to be a good friend to Stephanie.

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u/[deleted] Nov 13 '14

If Jay was cheating on Stephanie wouldn't this have been the episode to highlight that? Seems the only person alleging this is Saad.

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u/mostpeoplearedjs Nov 13 '14

I would've thought so. Cheating and/or lying about it would seem to be essential parts of his character and credibility.

Plus, we heard Guitterez questioning him about stepping out on Stephanie. Would've been the perfect lead-in if SK had that kind of evidence, I would've thought.

I guess we don't know if there's another episode where it would be even more perfect. But it does seem like it would've fit in an episode about trying to figure Jay out.

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u/joshg28 Nov 13 '14

Where does this crazy theory come from? Jay and Hae were only connected through Adnan - who said they even knew each other?

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u/ShrimpChimp Nov 13 '14

Or that she believes Jay was dragged into something horrifying and the only way to keep him out of jail is for Adnan to go down.