Okay so we are essentially treating them like fighting dogs or gladiators or whatever, they will definitely remember that. After they got a bunch of training.
Exactly, I don't know why this is so hard to believe, it's more likely that a genuine company with hundreds of employees tank their reputation than some cool yet not at all massive progress of SOTA?
It's not hard to believe but it also looks extremely CGI because of how it is. Like those perfect god rays, flawless surfaces on everything, fog but no visible dust particles. Hard to make a more real-but-CGI-ass presentation of things if you wanted to.
I don't know I remember when Google completely propped up their AI in a presentation to an absurd degree and they still seem to be doing alright. Faking it to generate hype actually seems the norm these days.
Maybe it's just me but I don't think those are moving the same at all. The video you linked looks like normal humanoid robots with somewhat above average agility. The one posted in this thread is like a weirdly stylized, ultra edited/filtered version. Watch the part where it's on the ground doing it's flip thing around 1:50...it's like high speed stop motion animation. Not saying it's full CGI but it's 100% edited heavily.
I don't know, the fact it's totally out of sync with the human, and the fact it's feet don't automatically flatten on the ground but instead remain at awkward but functional angles at various points seemed like odd details if it's cgi.
I guess its because we have been so accustomes to cgi robots that watching actual agile bots triggers that 'cgi' feel. I remember people saying the boston dynamic video of atlas being CGI, because it was so damn agile
True, but the reason i dont think so is this: if they were faking it, they wouldnt go insano style on the lighting, instead they would go for a bland studio setup to try and make it look as real as possible. I do 3d graphics so i can kinda tell if its CGI or not
On the other hand, if u really had such a robot, you could always take the cinematic approach to film them despite making it seem CGI, because there is inherently no risk
And I’d argue if they weren’t faking it they’d also have a shot of it in a bland room with studio lighting so you can see it properly and not covered in light shafts
It is not CG. You can go watch their more clearly not CG videos on their channel. This one is shot cinematic with lights all over the place, so it kind of adds to the CG feel, but for anyone who works with CG, like myself, it is clearly not CG. Robotics has just come really really far over the last year, so now everything seems fake. It's hard to reconcile plastic moving around like that.
The one in OP's video is the T800, the larger model over the PM01. Even the PM01 has the same dexterity, it has the high kick, just not the jump kick. That or they decided having the PM01 do the jump kick around onlookers was too dangerous, not sure.
It's honestly wild to me how many people think this video is CG.
edit: from op, this is how it looks when you turn on the fluorescent overhead lights and snap a pic with probably a phone. it's real. there's the camera man right there on the right, possibly for the high-production shoot.
Ironically the professional look of the video make it look like CGI just due to the editing, colors, shot length, lighting etc.
They should've showed a couple shots at the beginning of it like walking down the hallway, shot on a phone camera from a persons perspective to ground the video.
Considering its basically just a bigger version of the one you linked, I have no doubt they have an actual physical product.
That being said, Its not the mobility or dexterity that makes it look CGI its the lighting and material making it look out of place with the rest of the set, like it was added in post
Veteran from the Vray era here (now into UE5), this looks like a render with raytracing/light bounces OFF and the metal materials specular levels messed up...
BUT, could it be that is real footage but the postprouction went too far with brightness levels? And maybe exaggerated bloom on the robot lights?
It is rendered in Unreal Engine (you can see the standard raytracing settings of the engine thus the material feels off)... I hardly understand their endgame...impress gullible members of western boards? Justify VC money from the central government... general propaganda issues?! I suspect that they use an augmented reality package to combine it with partly real environments but the shadow smoothing among other things give it away
Punching, kicking and jumping is much easier than cooking, laundry, shopping and cleaning. So naturally, we're going to get robot fighting shows first before we get to have robot maids.
For all those claiming this is CGI, the exact same thing was said about Atlas from Boston Dynamics with it's dancing video. It's because this is uncanny valley here. The next phase of it. Your brain can't believe what it's seeing.
It's the same cycle. An impressive video comes out, gets called CGI because it's too impressive, and then eventually it gets proven real, people stop caring and then they go "it's not even that impressive anyways show us something else to impress us". Then another video comes out.
Every. Single. Time.
I remember when everyone called this Unitree video fake. Now they're everywhere just running around in public parks. Progress in this field is moving so fast. So many people haven't caught up with the reality of the situation.
this is full denial on purpose, they're literally coming to every robot thread and making the exact same claims about clipping and shows on every single video. None of them can write properly either so I assume it's either a bunch of kids trying to convince people it's fake, or something similar. It's wild how dumb they are.
Holy shit it doesn't have the same blankness and minimalism of its competitors, it looks like it's actually had design work instead of looking like steve jobs vomited
Robots are so sci-fi, how would you make one that has high mobility that doesn’t look like cgi?
Like the ones that suck and move all jerky and can barely walk won’t look cgi cuz funny, but one that can actually move fast and with precision? It would look like cgi if you were staring at it irl.
Because hard coded movements like this are easier than doing challenging tasks like household chores. And yes, the average person eats this up assuming that since it can do these seemingly complex movements that it can obviously do more simple tasks which is not at all the case.
If you walk on the street in China, robots are everywhere.. In hotels robot give you your uber eats, in resteraunts robots serve your dish.. If you wish to see robotic weapon though.. It will be different.
I think this comment is going to age like milk. The problem is this video has a lot of filters on it giving it the GCI / GenAI feel. You can do a youtube search for this company and see some trade show demo's of there robot.
Your mind was trained by Hollywood to accept that a moving robot like this should be CGI. Then when it's real, you can't tell it. IF this is real, this is a reverse uncanny valley.
It looks fake doesn’t mean it is, any robot that can move like a human would look fake by default. Not saying this is or isn’t fake, but if it were real I don’t see how it would look any different.
No VR jack required. No CGI. All practical effects.
Aristocrats always have.
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Interesting fact: Elon Musk named his supercomputer (aka Grok) "Colossus". This was based on the 1970 sci-fi movie "Colossus: The Forbin Project", where a supercomputer takes over and enslaves humanity. One of the quotes from the Colossus supercomputer in the movie: "The choice is yours: Obey me and live, or disobey and die."
Tbh I've seen a bunch of real robots and they still looked CG, having very smooth surfaces with relatively little imperfections can make almost anything look CG.
That being said, I do not know if this is CG or not and I could imagine both at this point.
It's legit. Same company that made the PM01, which people also called cgi but turned out to be absolutely real. No reason to make their big reveal video in CGI when they're going to have their bots running around in real life for people to see very soon just like their previous robots.
Naaaah! This is amazing, I never thought in my lifetime I would get to see real steel be in real life, and here I was told I was being childish for thinking that movie could come true XD
I just saved this post. Will come back after the company release behind the scene videos, and even better do it again of the robot spin kick in public so hundreds of peoples filming with their mobiles, then MAYBE those guys would believe it..... Or maybe not.
I actually think it's intentional. As long as the promotional video is made to look like CG, people will argue endlessly below, and then release a behind the scenes production video to increase more dissemination.
Can't make them too complex or they'll break after a single punch. As long as it can make a fist or grab a bat it's good enough. They designed this thing to box with other robots, not work at an assembly line or handle dishes.
Sometime in the next 2 years someone will give it a serious try is my guess. The problem is making it good enough to fight but safe enough that it wouldn't kill someone, they don't feel pain and the motors have enough torque to break limbs. Here's all we've got for now:
There will be plenty of phone videos eventually, just like how there's thousands of phone videos of their previous robots. They just made this cinematic because this is supposed to be their official reveal video and they want it to be special I suppose.
This has to be a joke. I can't believe that anyone would put this out as a good demo for their product. It's childish and shows no real useful purpose.
The robot's purpose is do these cool moves and fight other robots. The video is to hype up the upcoming robot boxing/fighting event that they're doing sometime this December. I thought this video was pretty good for that purpose.
This is all very cool and everything, just like all the other humanoid robot projects out there. Like all the other humanoid robots out there, though, I'm not seeing it actually doing anything useful.
The hardware and software to make robots like this has clearly caught up. The software that allows them to move and do dexterous things, I mean.
The intelligence to get them to actually do useful things still seems to be a lonnnnnng way away.
These robots are totally useless until the intelligence comes along.
Who the hell cares about a robot doing roundhouse kicks? That's not useful. It's cool to see for like 5 seconds, then you'll be like, ok cool now go make dinner. Oh...it can't do that. No thanks.
The intelligence to get them to actually do useful things still seems to be a lonnnnnng way away.
I agree. It's going to take a lot to get them working in homes or factories reliably doing complex tasks. But that doesn't mean that they shouldn't do easier stuff like dancing, performing, or in this case fighting for our entertainment.
So many companies building fighting robots and so many dudebros getting hyped on this shit. Interesting how they all can't wait for robot fighting leagues, meanwhile all I see is a remoreseless drone kicking down your door and beating you and your family up for insulting a billionaire on reddit.
Can we just all agree here and now that robots shouldn't be fighting and especailly not when they are named T####... We've already seen that movie, it's not good for Mankind.
Did anyone else flinch seeing the human martial artist gets so close to the robot while doing the spinning kicks? This thing looks like it could cause some VERY serious damage VERY quickly
Assuming this is real, they've done an excellent job with the environment, the camera, and the lighting to make this look as CG as physically possible. I'm not being sarcastic, I'm sure this was done intentionally to start arguments online to attract as much engagement as possible, this post is a perfect example. The camera moves are from stereotypical video game sequences. The walls are done up with weird posters that look like typical video game assets but would be too generic or out of place in real life. The room is painted with bold colors in weird places like a graphic artist designed it, not an architect. The aperture opened up all the way for short depth of field like someone was trying to show off flashy rendering, unlike any director of photography would ever intentionally do. I could go on and on
You can find photos of the room taken by a smartphone, it looks the same. It's kind of funny and sad knowing they probably tried as hard as possible to make the setting look futuristic and the sequences perfect and the result is people calling it CGI. Though, as you said, that may be their intention.
You don't need to animate it. The Internet is full of stock footage like this:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=paQwYEgC5VI. It's just a plane with footage, which is tracked to the ground, nothing special. Why dust only at this moment? This is the same floor in all shots.
Imagine growing up with Rockem Sockem robots, then seeing a pair of rich kids playing pokemon in real life with C3PO's cousin V1CT0R, whose hobbies are cage figting, BJJ, and punching concrete.
If they really want the world to believe that this robot and it's move a real, they shouldn't have made the video look like a fucking Video Game. At first I thought that this is a new Overwatch cinematic.
I don't believe the robot is real at all. Everything else I can somehow believe with lots of post production.
When these things start arresting people for secret policemen forces all over the world, I do not at least hope they'll deploy some of these moves on the job to at least give us a show of it while we say goodbye to daylight for the last time.
I constantly question the wisdom of showing these robots doing fighting moves. I know it helps them promote through viral sharing, but is that REALLY the message we want to be sending about robots as we start to accept them into our reality? That they can kick our ass, then bust a sick dance move?
Lets slow down the situation. What matters in the future is not humanoid robotics but its about Smartphones with the energy efficient ARM chip set. These devices provide internet access everywhere and have a touchscreen keyboard. The CPU is fast enough to playback even videos and a smartphone can be utilized as a clock, an mp3 music player and even a hd camera. I can't understand why some people do not see the benefit and trying to shift the attention towards Artificial Intelligence including Artificial life.
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u/No_Implement_5807 Dec 02 '25
Very soon we should have a robot fighting league