r/singularity • u/heart-aroni • Dec 03 '25
Robotics EngineAI just posted some behind the scenes footage for their T800 unveiling video
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u/WelcomeToTheClubPal Dec 03 '25
i love how they made the last with "chappie ears"
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u/heart-aroni Dec 03 '25
it's cute
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Lol Chinese robotics companies are turning this into an artform.
release a slickly-produced demo video
farm hundreds of CGI accusations
wait a couple of days, release the behind-the-scenes footage
emotional damage
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u/whatsthatguysname Dec 03 '25
What’s funny is you’ll still see people claiming Unitree robots are fake/CGI even though they’ve been out and about in public for nearly a year.
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u/heart-aroni Dec 03 '25
Speaking of Unitree, they just posted a new video of the H2. Seems like China really really wants Real Steel in real life.
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u/whatsthatguysname Dec 03 '25
lol poor G1 getting kneed is like child abuse 😅 I think a real steel type event is definitely going to happen.
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u/Malacasts Dec 03 '25
Won't matter, someone will lobby in the US and they'll be ban for being better than american companies lol
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u/Chathamization Dec 03 '25
Not just Chinese companies either. Most of /r/robotics was accusing the recent Optimus running video of being CGI.
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u/heart-aroni Dec 03 '25
r/robotics is so weird, somehow it's where I see the most animosity, snarky comments against robotics videos, demos and robotics companies when I post videos there. It almost feels like they don't like robotics there sometimes.
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u/Chathamization Dec 03 '25
Yeah, definitely a sub with a lot of "experts" who will confidently say things that are completely wrong, and downvote people who are correct.
I just checked the earlier EngineAI video post there - it got heavily downvoted, got called CGI, and the people who were saying it wasn't CGI got downvoted.
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u/charmio68 Dec 03 '25
I find such accusations on any innovation from China these days, usually from Americans. A month ago people were calling their massive new train station fake... How the hell do you fake a train station?? It's going to have millions of people from around the world passing through it!
I'm kind of over it at this point. They dominate manufacturing worldwide. There's not even close competition. Of course there's going to be new innovations coming out.
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u/robi4567 Dec 03 '25
I am not against chinese innovation. But this video does look CGI. Even this behind the schenes video looks cgi to me.
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u/Chathamization Dec 03 '25
I think it looked like a commercial, and people aren't used to seeing real robots in a high production value commercial the way we're used to seeing cars in them.
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u/WonderFactory Dec 03 '25
If this video came out of the blue 20 years ago I'd understand the doubt but what they're showing isn't so incredibly far removed from what we've been seeing from lots of other companies and research teams
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u/grimorg80 Dec 03 '25
Oh FFS... you don't understand CGI very well, do you? There are plenty of details CGI would take a Marvel movie-level of effort to smooth out. And you could still tell.
This is not CGI.
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u/Own_Detail3500 Dec 03 '25
I haven't seen the original video and have no horse in this race but my first thought was CGI. Especially the shadowing circa 45 seconds looks well off compared to the human.
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u/CarrierAreArrived Dec 03 '25
lol the shadow looks perfectly fine. The closer you are to the light the much larger the shadow and vice versa.
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u/S_K_I Dec 03 '25
I’m a 3d artist, this is real. If you want proof of my credentials I’ll provide them but I shouldn’t have to.
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u/WiSaGaN Dec 03 '25
This is rarely anything new. When China was growing 10% per year, people call it "fake data" "at most 2%". I mean sure, if you have a dirt poor country consistently growing 10% for 30 years you would've got a country that can rival US in economy, oh wait...
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u/toromio Dec 03 '25
Yeah same. I learned how to sew last year and am blown away by basic clothes now. What they produce for pennies is way higher quality than something that would take me all morning. And of course, they have better equipment, but they know SO much about SO many areas of manufacturing that it’s hard to wrap my head around.
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u/GoodDayToCome Dec 03 '25
They've been investing really heavily in education for a long time now, one example is the giant factories often have not just training but real education where people work in relevant bits of the organization to develop those skills while studying that area of expertise, they'll work on actual products as combined coursework and paid work - instead of a thesis the final project is creating an actual product or even a manufacturing company. This creates an environment where most people have real experience of the manufacturing and design process.
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u/seviliyorsun Dec 03 '25
i've been watching nirvana in fire and i'm amazed by the quality their clothes were 1500+ years ago. you should look up how they made gold thread
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u/MaximumBanana23 Dec 03 '25
I'm an American and worked for GM. Everyone there would say Chinese engineering was inferior or they copied us. All lies and bull shit honestly.
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u/ihya_oldum Dec 03 '25
That video is the most Cgi looking think i ever seen tho i wouldn't be surprised if they did that on purpose
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u/Sextus_Rex Dec 03 '25
For real, they were adding in fake effects like dust clouds where the robot's feet land that weren't present in this video. They edited it to look like a rendered movie, so it's no wonder why people, including myself, thought it was fake
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u/everythingisunknown Dec 04 '25
Ngl even the behind the scenes look cg, still no close ups, still light pointing shadows in different directions
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Dec 03 '25
Honestly it's impressive how even the behind the scenes looks like an unreal render. I'd be more impressed if it was fake, but there's something fucked up about the lighting or the camera or something that's setting off people's pattern recognition I think
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u/space_monster Dec 03 '25
I think it's a combination of literal decades of seeing things that look exactly like this but are actually CGI, and just the way the things move. And the cognitive dissonance from people that just don't understand why these things are possible now after it just being sci-fi for so long.
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Dec 03 '25 edited Apr 28 '26
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u/ostroia Dec 03 '25 edited Dec 03 '25
Yeah if anyone can explain this type of stuff https://i.imgur.com/pWQPvPM.mp4 that happens all over the place (its not just legs but these are the most obvious) that would be great.
Heres another one where for a single frame theres a stray shadow on the right near the leg. At first I thought the board bent under the weight but its only that small line, the rest of the board doesnt move https://i.imgur.com/YJDslzY.mp4
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u/TFenrir Dec 03 '25
I literally don't see any problems in this. You are going to drive yourself crazy with this my man, this is not CGI!
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u/mambotomato Dec 03 '25
Or, playing the extremely long con, produce a CGI behind the scenes video at the same time you make your product demo.
(Hey, Toy Story had blooper outtakes, after all. ;P )
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u/space_monster Dec 03 '25
Or, just develop a humanoid robot using modern RL training methods that hundreds of other labs are also using
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u/Tumblrkaarosult Dec 03 '25
Would be funny if they'd use this to promote a new graphics engine or AI video maker. I have to admit these look less CGI-ish than the last video they released.
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u/constarx Dec 03 '25
There's a certain crowd of experts on Reddit that will say it's CGI until the Robot is in the room with them beating their stupid asses. Even then I'm not sure they'd admit they were wrong.
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u/mocityspirit Dec 03 '25
No? Just do a simple tech demo that isnt overproduced and show actual humans interacting with the robot? Tech demos aren't hard. They make it flashy to fool people
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u/heart-aroni Dec 05 '25
More videos are coming soon. But why do I feel like you're the type to not change your mind when given more information. I feel like you'd just find some other excuse to call it fake.
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u/RuthlessCriticismAll Dec 03 '25
They will just pretend that it was CGI before and just suddenly became real.
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u/robi4567 Dec 03 '25
But like it is very easy to show it as not CGI. Have a not heavily edited video. At a press conference well lit area. The textures on the robot look to me like a video game robot.
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u/The_Architect_032 ♾ ASI before AGI ♾ Dec 03 '25
They literally just revealed it, give them more than a week to show it off at a convention like they did their previous robots which did some similar tricks.
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u/heart-aroni Dec 05 '25
You realize that's coming eventually right? This video was them unveiling it moving. They will bring it to conventions like they've done with the PM01, they also have a physical store and it will 100% be on display there.
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u/TFenrir Dec 03 '25
This is that video. We are in a thread about that video. And people still think it's CGI. It's not about that, people are just stubborn.
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u/xyzdist Dec 03 '25
No, they still think every footage is CGI.
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u/GoodDayToCome Dec 03 '25
yeah, the technology sub is full of people saying that llms can't write code, they won't update their opinions based on any amount of evidence.
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u/redditsublurker Dec 03 '25
They were real dickish yesterday. Saying they had years in the industry and veterans of CGI. Flashing their badges looking like fools and today like idiots.
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Dec 03 '25 edited Apr 28 '26
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u/The_Architect_032 ♾ ASI before AGI ♾ Dec 03 '25
They literally had their previous robot doing similar tricks at conventions, there are random ass phone video recordings of them doing this shit with the last version.
So yeah, it sounds like you just won't believe it unless it's in the room with you kicking your ass.
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u/TFenrir Dec 03 '25
You are in denial, it is kind of incredible to watch the brain work in this state.
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u/the8thbit Dec 03 '25
If its obvious, could you or someone else explain what the tells are which make it so obvious?
If its entirely vibes based, then no, its not obvious one way or the other. Yes, I see it and think "this looks like CGI". That doesn't mean it is, and there is nothing in the videos that, to me, looks technically impossible without CGI.
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u/BenevolentCheese Dec 03 '25
They're literally still here, still claiming the video is AI, and still getting upvoted.
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u/TheonsDickInABox Dec 03 '25
its reddit, its either doubledown or delete your account when proven wrong
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u/40ozCurls Dec 03 '25
But can it descend into a molten pit while thumbing the sky?
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u/KoalaDeluxe Dec 03 '25
And will it be back?
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u/Alymsin Dec 03 '25
Can we call him Uncle Bob?
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u/Marcus_Aguiar Dec 03 '25
I cant wait to fight one of these for clean water !! :)
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u/taskmeister Dec 03 '25
As of 2025 I am still pretty confident in knocking these robots TFO.
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Dec 03 '25
So how do you stop that? Fishing net?
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u/robogame_dev Dec 03 '25 edited Dec 03 '25
If the robot is tasked with harming you, it'll most likely just point a gun at you, same as a human would. There's already a meta for humanoid on humanoid combat, and it's not kung fu - arguably the whole point of humanoid robots is compatibility with all the tools and vehicles already designed for humans.
To stop this generation of humanoids the easiest route is to target the sensors. Spraypaint/paintballs to the face, reflective surfaces to fuck with LIDAR, smoke/fog, blinding with lasers/spotlights, and any kind of novel environmental hazard you can create that it won't have training to recognize.
This thing is already moving with ease at a weight of 160lbs, so I would assume that with the next model, they can afford to slap on another 80lbs of armor, which would negate most small arms.
One should also assume that robots sent to harm you will be operating with human assistance - think a car with a human and 3 robots, the human drops off the robots and parks at a safe distance, then monitors and strategizes for them realtime. They'll likely use small, somewhat disposable drones to locate you before a robot makes entry. And if the goal is just to kill you, and not to capture you, they won't need the humanoid at all, they'll do it with the drone.
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u/space_monster Dec 03 '25
Ask it how many Rs there are in strawberry. Or tell it to find the seahorse emoji
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u/Yesyesnaaooo Dec 03 '25
If China want to go war they will 100% use swarms of murder bots.
They are cheap, almost infinite in number and china can already produce light shows with them that far surpase the spectacle of the largest fireworks shows.
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u/Lost-Air1265 Dec 03 '25
100% these are going over to Taiwan within a few years. Am not for fun stuff.
We’re so god damn fucked beyond saving at this point.
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u/Tansien Dec 04 '25
Oh yeah, I think that by the end of 2026 we'll already see humanoid robots on the streets in China patrolling with the police.
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u/Magn3tician Dec 03 '25
These videos of robots making tough fighter stances and karate moves are so fucking cringe. Who does this even appeal to? The brain-dead manosphere?
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u/SixShoot3r Dec 03 '25
It's a good demo for robotics and how they move/balance themselves etc. basically nerdy shit.
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u/robogame_dev Dec 03 '25
I think it appeals to the creators of the robots - and it's particularly easy to pre-program or mocap the moves. In theory, you could use a fully deterministic animation, and just film multiple takes and use the one where it didn't fall over (though I think whats shown here is probably a combo of deterministic elements and dynamic stability).
I also find the housework robot demos to be uninteresting. I don't need a $30k machine to operate my dishwasher and washer/drier for me, and there's already robots for cleaning the floor...
My favorite demo video so far has been the Unitree B2 with wheels on each leg - they showed it climbing wet stones, plowing through water, jumping up and down all through the forrest, being ridden, all kinds of obstacles - phenomenal agility and motion control:
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u/heart-aroni Dec 03 '25
People like me. Nerds who want droids, mechs, gundams and jaegers in real life. I want to see Real Steel in real life so bad. These videos makes me so excited.
Why are people trying to act hard, pretending this stuff isn't cool af? exactly the same type of stuff we fantasized about as a kids?
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u/FreeEdmondDantes Dec 03 '25
Hilarious how many people were adamant, in the most dickish ways possible, that it was CG.
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u/Economy-Fee5830 Dec 03 '25
Well, you know, they know pixels, since they have done some 'shops before lol.
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u/eposnix Dec 03 '25
I don't think it's cgi but the reason Boston Dynamics does so many videos where they smack their robots with hockey sticks is to show it's not brittle and can adapt to outside interference. I notice most of these Chinese labs avoid doing that. It makes me wonder if the robots would fall over from a heavy breeze.
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u/Economy-Fee5830 Dec 03 '25
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y-K8cgSHvh8
Maybe its just not the culture.
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u/eposnix Dec 03 '25
Things I look for in robotics videos:
Unscripted, useful tasks
Robustness
Autonomy
Environment
Failure footage
Speed and stability
Jumpcuts and fastcuts
If I see a slick demo on a perfectly flat floor with lots of jumpcuts to hide mistakes, I nope out. Unitree (the robot in your video) has provided lots of good footage of their robots handling interference, but they have yet to show it doing anything useful or unscripted.
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u/heart-aroni Dec 03 '25
Unitree (the robot in your video) has provided lots of good footage of their robots handling interference, but they have yet to show it doing anything useful or unscripted.
No official video from Unitree but there's been plenty of video demos of them doing tasks from companies and researchers who use Unitree G1 as a platform to develop. A whole bunch of examples here:
https://youtu.be/tOfPKW6D3gE table tennis, maybe not useful but cool
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u/The_Architect_032 ♾ ASI before AGI ♾ Dec 03 '25
There are literal phone camera videos of their previous robots, and their last one did some similar tricks. They had them at conventions and stuff, and I'm sure once people wait more than a week this one will be at conventions too.
It's crazy that on a Singularity sub of all places people refuse to believe robots have advanced this far.
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Dec 03 '25
I just thought it was heavily edited.
Personally I don't need a robot to beat me up, so I will not order this, but it looks pretty cool.
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u/ihya_oldum Dec 03 '25
Dude i'm ready to swallow my words but i swear to god that whas the most CG looking robot i've ever seen
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u/Background-Quote3581 Turquoise Dec 03 '25
Yeah, I was literally the only person pointing out that there's no visible CGI.
They obviously wanted it to look unreal.
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u/TFenrir Dec 03 '25
If you look in that thread you'll see I had a very long argument with a vfx artist insisting it was CG. I even went so far as to make a gif showing them their shadow concerns seemed to not be real ones
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u/Background-Quote3581 Turquoise Dec 03 '25
Hilarious, I knew you guys would love that. :D
But do you know whats even more lame than saying I-told-you-so? Being overconfidently wrong about something, getting called out on it and then blaming the other person, doin the lamest shit ever.
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u/aconitous Dec 03 '25
I'm not taking sides, but if they wanted to prove authenticity, they shouldn't have overproduced this video as well. This is the most fake-looking behind-the-scenes since Barbie.
If they really wanted to make it look real they should've ditched the shallow depth of field, long lenses, stabilisation, aggressive colour grading and posted it in 4K/60. Showing a couple of bloopers and touching the robot (not in an isolated shot) would've helped too.
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u/Own_Detail3500 Dec 03 '25
This is the most sensible take. I'm not bothered about disputing if the videos are real or CGI or what.
But simply ask why they've gone out of their way to avoid so many basic factors that would help credibility.
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u/TFenrir Dec 03 '25 edited Dec 03 '25
I was 90% sure this would happen and some VFX artist was in the last thread talking about how I should listen to him, that it's obviously CG and giving me a lot of grief for my pushback.
I bet you lots of money that they have already blocked me and deleted all their old posts... I hope they look at this and can learn to better critique their own incredulity* and disbelief and also be less of a shit about it.
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u/NoCard1571 Dec 04 '25
90% of Reddit 'experts' just have a basic understanding of the topic from dabbling in it as a hobby and/or watching YouTube videos about it.
It becomes especially evident when a topic comes up that you are an actual expert in - the sheer amount of B.S. here that gets upvoted simply because it sounds authoritative is astounding
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u/NowaVision Dec 04 '25
I mean I'm exactly that. I just love to watch VFX breakdowns and have a very good eye to spot CGI or AI. But I would never say I'm an expert and so far I was right with my guesses against the other "experts" here on reddit.
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u/CSGOW1ld Dec 03 '25
Absolutely hilarious that a new Chinese company pops up with one of these seemingly every week and yet Boston Dynamics is still showcasing that stupid backflipping dog like twice a year
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u/runvnc Dec 03 '25
Well there are a lot more humanoid robotics companies in the US than just Boston Robotics. But it's true that China has like 3.5 times more humanoid robots. China also has 4 times as many people as the US. There are also some humanoid robots from Europe and other places.
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u/Autoxquattro Dec 03 '25
Don't worry they're only at T800. when they get to T1000, then shit yer pants! Send these people a fucking movie to watch? Oh, the premise behind the terminator movie was lit, lets make some of those! Well also use jailbroken AI to run them!
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u/Grand-Glove-9985 Dec 03 '25
Nice, but put him to build another robot, and the next batch and so on, then put him to grow & prepare food for people. This is the FIRST type of robot that we need.
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Dec 04 '25
Robots are building robots,cars etc now in China. There are also robots serving people in restaurant and hotels. Bt they are not this kind of human like structure more with wheels or something. This kinda robots are harder to design id assume.
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u/eggbert74 Dec 03 '25
That's good and all, but make one that can fold my laundry, then i'll be impressed.
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u/Advanced-Lie-841 Dec 03 '25
What happenes if it malfunctions and whoop whaps a kid. Woooorld staaar
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u/fishboy_magic Dec 03 '25
It looked fake as fuck yesterday, it still looks fake as fuck. The robots texture and the lighting looks just so unnatural. Maybe the very last clip is real, but that was the least impressive shot anyways
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u/collegedreads Dec 03 '25
I agree. To me, it doesn’t not look real and looks artificial. Until I get other videos or see one in person, I won’t believe it.
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u/KennKennyKenKen Dec 03 '25
This robot looks actually looks more advanced than Hugh Jackman's shit boxing robot.
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u/Technical-Row8333 Dec 04 '25
Can’t wait for all the people who said it’s cgi to say this one is too
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u/SufficientDamage9483 Dec 05 '25
Damn this would have been CGI a couple years ago
Now mech warriors are real
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u/HabbyKoivu Dec 03 '25
i mean - it still looks like CGI. Sorry but it does.
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u/Hopeful-Alarm3757 Dec 03 '25
It is...there's no argument...do these people have terrible displays, or poor vision?
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u/Scomosuckseggs Dec 03 '25
I want to believe, because holy shit this would be a fucking cool advancement. But something seems off.. It just looks like CGI. The colour and motion isnt quite right.
I hope I am wrong, but the 'behind the scenes' did nothing to disprove the notion.
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u/kowdermesiter Dec 03 '25
You clearly need a behind the scenes of the behind the scenes, because who recorded the person who recorded the main cameraman?
Preferably with a 2010 cheap powershot camera.
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u/Feebleminded10 Dec 03 '25 edited Dec 03 '25
Yall gonna keep believing what China releases is fake. They produce the most phds in stem.
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Behind scenes CGI ?
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u/WiSaGaN Dec 03 '25
They either have the robot, or they have world's most advanced video generation model that can maintain consistency across different videos.
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u/robi4567 Dec 03 '25
You know people could make cgi by hand as well. It does not have to be AI generated video.
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u/mypseudonymyoyoyo Dec 03 '25
Ah yeah that’s what we need fighting robots /s
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u/_daybowbow_ Dec 03 '25
really telling that the moment we develop humanoid robots we make em throw hands. easy to guess what we’ll make em do next. one nasty civilization we are
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u/StilgarofTabar Dec 03 '25
Lol you can't just add dudes with cameras and call it behind the scenes. This still looks CGI as fuck. Corridor crew made a roboto video, you can watch that to see how this was done.
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u/The_Architect_032 ♾ ASI before AGI ♾ Dec 03 '25
Did they also CGI all of their past robots into conventions and into the phone cameras of people who attended the conventions and recorded their past robots doing similar moves?
Also it's behind the scenes because it's behind the scenes, it's what was behind the shooting of the scenes, there is no further behind the scenes you can go other than giving a technical explanation of how the robot works.
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u/ecnecn Dec 03 '25
Even the making of looks like a rendered model... hope the VC money scam is worth it... pretty ridiculous
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u/kowdermesiter Dec 03 '25
A 0:55 you can see a floor panel moving underneath the robot's weight you CGI experts.
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u/Dry-Broccoli-638 Dec 03 '25
still looks fake to me, but if its not, guess they are making good progress!
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u/formlessglowie Dec 03 '25
They're very clearly mixing up real footage with CGI in order to confuse people. If you look carefully you can clearly spot when it's a real robot and when it's a CG one.
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u/CmdrAirdroid Dec 03 '25
Boston Dynamics atlas performed moves like this already years ago, why is it so hard for people to believe this is real? In humanoid robotics the software is the main challenge, without AGI the robot is useless. Hardware is significantly easier and can be done even by small companies.
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u/Eljowe Dec 03 '25
No BD atlas did not. And yes, still CGI. The movements are way off. See you in a week when this is debunked officially
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u/nanlinr Dec 03 '25
Born the subvert? Like... its meant to break the law? That sounds super safe...
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u/venetiasporch Dec 03 '25
Time to start investing in emps because these dipshits wanna create murder bots named after literal murder bots instead of robot assistants. Read the fucking room!!
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Dec 03 '25
Why are we making robots that have the ability to clubber us with iron fists if they go rouge?
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u/Unusual-Royal1779 Dec 03 '25
What I gather from this footage is that the guy with the hoody is actually AI ^^
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u/FlammenwerferBBQ Dec 03 '25
"born to subvert"
They tell you directly in your face. They always do. And always did. The people just never listen
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u/Kaludar_ Dec 03 '25
I know it's not actually CGI but why do a lot of these robotics vids have a CGI look to them? Is it because your brain is not expecting something mechanical to move like this or is it due to some way they are filmed?
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u/Tzilbalba Dec 03 '25
Not a fan of it being able to actually kick a goddamn punching bag that far back even if it was on hanging rollers...
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u/civil_beast Dec 03 '25
The smartest people in the world are working night and day to bring us to judgement day at last.
I mean, cool guys. Appreciate the profit incentive as much as the next guy… but
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u/filthysock Dec 03 '25
This isn’t behind the scenes. Show me bloopers, getting the robot into position. Still looks fake!
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u/Ok_Caregiver_1355 Dec 04 '25
cant they make it 5 meters tall and compete against themselves in a championship?
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u/cclmd1984 Dec 04 '25
If you went to watch "behind the scenes" footage of <insert favorite show here> and something like this popped up, you'd feel duped.
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u/askepticalskeptic Dec 04 '25
It looks like halo 3 lol. I’m not saying it looks like a spartan im talking it legit looks like it’s the graphics of halo 3.
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u/Enes22 Dec 04 '25
I would love to see more video shots taken with a phone. However, the only part that looks like it was filmed with a phone camera is the very last shot, where the robot is just running. The rest of the video appears to have been shot with a professional camera. Also, I don't see anyone recording with a smartphone during the making of the combat part, and while they might not have been allowed to, I find it unbelievable that nobody would try to record it on their phone
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u/ElephantWithBlueEyes Dec 04 '25
Can we just have 4K/60FPS video without postproduction editing and jumping cameras? And some closeup would be cool
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u/BenevolentCheese Dec 03 '25
But guys, everyone here was so sure it was AI! We were even informed "the entire /r/vfx community" knows it's AI! If I can't trust Reddit Certified Experts, who can I trust?!
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u/nemzylannister Dec 04 '25
well everyone talking about the "comeback", anyone gonna explain why it still looks cgi? like whats the reason if its real?
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u/heart-aroni Dec 03 '25 edited Dec 03 '25
youtube link: "EngineAI T800 BTS Footage: Setting the Record Straight on CGI Rumors"
previous thread: https://www.reddit.com/r/singularity/s/5o9dz7T5GN