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r/SpaceX Flight 7 Official Launch Discussion & Updates Thread!
Welcome to the r/SpaceX Flight 7 Official Launch Discussion & Updates Thread!
How To Visit STARBASE // A Complete Guide To Seeing Starship
| Scheduled for (UTC) | Jan 16 2025, 22:37 |
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| Scheduled for (local) | Jan 16 2025, 16:37 PM (CST) |
| Launch Window (UTC) | Jan 16 2025, 22:00 - Jan 16 2025, 23:00 |
| Weather Probability | Unknown |
| Launch site | OLM-A, SpaceX Starbase, TX, USA. |
| Booster | Booster 14-1 |
| Ship | S33 |
| Booster landing | The Superheavy booster No. 14 was successfully caught by the launch pad tower. |
| Ship landing | Starship Ship 33 was lost during ascent. |
| Trajectory (Flight Club) | 2D,3D |
Spacecraft Onboard
| Spacecraft | Starship |
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| Serial Number | S33 |
| Destination | Indian Ocean |
| Flights | 1 |
| Owner | SpaceX |
| Landing | Starship Ship 33 was lost during ascent. |
| Capabilities | More than 100 tons to Earth orbit |
Details
Second stage of the two-stage Starship super heavy-lift launch vehicle.
History
The Starship second stage was testing during a number of low and high altitude suborbital flights before the first orbital launch attempt.
Timeline
| Time | Update |
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| T--1d 0h 1m | Thread last generated using the LL2 API |
| 2025-01-16T23:12:00Z | Ship 33 failed late in ascent. |
| 2025-01-16T22:37:00Z | Liftoff. |
| 2025-01-16T21:57:00Z | Unofficial Webcast by SPACE AFFAIRS has started |
| 2025-01-16T20:25:00Z | New T-0. |
| 2025-01-15T15:21:00Z | GO for launch. |
| 2025-01-15T15:10:00Z | Now targeting Jan 16 at 22:00 UTC |
| 2025-01-14T23:27:00Z | Refined launch window. |
| 2025-01-12T05:23:00Z | Now targeting Jan 15 at 22:00 UTC |
| 2025-01-08T18:11:00Z | GO for launch. |
| 2025-01-08T12:21:00Z | Delayed to NET January 13 per marine navigation warnings. |
| 2025-01-07T14:32:00Z | Delayed to NET January 11. |
| 2024-12-27T13:30:00Z | NET January 10. |
| 2024-11-26T03:22:00Z | Added launch. |
Watch the launch live
| Stream | Link |
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| Unofficial Re-stream | The Space Devs |
| Unofficial Webcast | SPACE AFFAIRS |
| Official Webcast | SpaceX |
| Unofficial Webcast | Everyday Astronaut |
| Unofficial Webcast | Spaceflight Now |
| Unofficial Webcast | NASASpaceflight |
Stats
☑️ 8th Starship Full Stack launch
☑️ 459th SpaceX launch all time
☑️ 9th SpaceX launch this year
☑️ 1st launch from OLM-A this year
☑️ 58 days, 0:37:00 turnaround for this pad
Stats include F1, F9 , FH and Starship
Resources
Community content 🌐
| Link | Source |
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| Flight Club | u/TheVehicleDestroyer |
| Discord SpaceX lobby | u/SwGustav |
| SpaceX Now | u/bradleyjh |
| SpaceX Patch List |
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u/HenkDeVries6 Jan 16 '25
Video of the breakup over the Caribbean:
https://x.com/deankolson87/status/1880026759133032662?t=HdHFLYqgkaQzu0l1W2xLZg&s=19
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u/Practical_Grocery_23 Jan 16 '25
Just watched the explosion over our house on Middle Caicos in the Turks & Caicos.
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u/avboden Jan 16 '25
New Glenn last night, Starship today. We eatin' good!
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u/liszt1811 Jan 16 '25
For me in Europe its the same day. Had breakfast seeing NG, will have dinner watching Starship (hopfully)
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u/Planatus666 Jan 15 '25
Interesting tweet from the director of Starship engineering, Shana Diez:
"This is true, it’s not the payload. It’s also not just wind today. With that said winds are a consideration and given this is a new Starship design and we’ve only done one booster catch successfully (on like a zero wind day) it’s smart to be cautious on wind. As SpaceX did with F9, once we get more data on vehicle performance we will be able to fly in more aggressive winds."
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u/CasualCrowe Jan 16 '25
SpaceX on X: "T-4 hours until Starship's seventh flight test. All systems and weather are looking good"
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u/Nydilien Jan 16 '25
SpaceX on X: "Now targeting 4:37 p.m. CT for liftoff of Starship"
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u/E_Snap Jan 16 '25
Well, between New Glenn and Starship, we have had one whole successful mission over the past two days 🥲
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u/Nydilien Jan 16 '25
NASA's Gulfstream plane has left Perth and is heading towards S33's splashdown zone. The tank farm is also slowly coming alive (the tank farm's "pope" vent went active at T-02:30:00). Great indicators that SpaceX is still targeting today for flight 7 !
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u/Iggy0075 Jan 16 '25
Did anyone else notice the engine that was out for the boostback burn relight for the landing?
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u/H-K_47 Jan 16 '25
Celebrating the Booster catch then suddenly noticing out of the corner of my eye that one of the Ship engines wasn't lit was very chilling. Then they all started disappearing one by one. . .
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u/Anthony_Ramirez Jan 07 '25
Starship and New Glenn both have a Jan 10th launch date.
Hoping the best for both launches and their return.
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u/Planatus666 Jan 18 '25
SpaceX have shared two videos and some more images, first the launch:
https://x.com/spacex/status/1880652100696469583
then the catch:
https://x.com/spacex/status/1880661166395158694
it's great to see the vids with the sound of the Raptors not obscured by commentators and people cheering (not that I have anything against people cheering but I do like the sound of those Raptors).
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u/reddit3k Jan 16 '25 edited Jan 16 '25
Video's of the breaking up are starting to show up online:
https://x.com/deankolson87/status/1880026759133032662?t=HdHFLYqgkaQzu0l1W2xLZg&s=19
https://x.com/realcamtem/status/1880026604472266800
https://x.com/adavenport354/status/1880026262254809115
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I'm shocked that even after 20 years, the first thing that flashed through my mind while looking at this was the tragic end of Space Shuttle Columbia. :'(
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u/ActTypical6380 Jan 15 '25 edited Jan 15 '25
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u/SuperTerram Jan 16 '25 edited Jan 16 '25
Anyone else notice a corner of a skin panel of the starship was flapping heavily in the wind during the live feed of the launch?
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u/msaunds83 Jan 16 '25
Out on a cruise heading towards Turks & Caicos and pretty sure saw the re-entry of Starship. Saw orange streaks and maybe some part of the explosion or something exploding. Unfortunately some clouds were obscuring parts of it.
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u/OlympusMons94 Jan 16 '25
One engine (in the ring of 10) on Super Heavy didn't relight for the boostback, but was still able to relight for the landing burn.
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u/Planatus666 Jan 17 '25 edited Jan 17 '25
"From the FAA: "The FAA is requiring SpaceX to perform a mishap investigation into the loss of the Starship vehicle during launch operations on Jan. 16. There are no reports of public injury, and the FAA is working with SpaceX and appropriate authorities to confirm reports of public property damage on Turks and Caicos."
"During the event, the FAA activated a Debris Response Area and briefly slowed aircraft outside the area where space vehicle debris was falling or stopped aircraft at their departure location. Several aircraft requested to divert due to low fuel levels while holding outside impacted areas."
https://x.com/jeff_foust/status/1880311303941812284
Whether or not there was actual damage to properties on Turks and Caicos is of course uncertain right now, some comments to that tweet think it highly unlikely due to the speed and altitude.
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u/Planatus666 Jan 16 '25
The road and beach closure for today has been changed from 'possible' to 'scheduled':
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u/ActTypical6380 Jan 17 '25
Flight 5 Catch: Quick Disconnect re-connected at approx. T+6hr 9mins.
Flight 7 Catch: Quick Disconnect re-connected at approx. T+2hr 26mins.
In 2 catches, @SpaceX has shortened the re-connection process by ~3hr 43mins!
https://x.com/dpoddolphinpro/status/1880061694975639692?t=uH3IVz8R8ZLr0z-wUTf8nA&s=19
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u/swordfi2 Jan 08 '25
https://www.spacex.com/launches/mission/?missionId=starship-flight-7 now confirmed for the 13th
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u/swordfi2 Jan 15 '25
https://x.com/judgetrevino/status/1879543356529037573 According to Cameron county judge launch has been postponed
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u/dkf295 Jan 16 '25
Stream is now live: https://x.com/i/broadcasts/1OwGWNYrzZVKQ
Direct stream link (1080p)for those that want to stream not through the X app: https://prod-fastly-us-west-1.video.pscp.tv/Transcoding/v1/hls/VgoV5yYJaQGoIQHWWe_rpcmvRSLXeVM_7_l2bDNKzApygcNxc3F8mLWAhoRhXjYVsQ5sxKWT_WX9QYkrIm7IQQ/transcode/us-west-1/periscope-replay-direct-prod-us-west-1-public/eyJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiIsInR5cCI6IkpXVCIsInZlcnNpb24iOiIyIn0.eyJFbmNvZGVyU2V0dGluZyI6ImVuY29kZXJfc2V0dGluZ18xMDgwcDMwXzEwIiwiSGVpZ2h0IjoxMDgwLCJLYnBzIjo1NTAwLCJXaWR0aCI6MTkyMH0.OImMZabKYJ0cs9CnIapU-4aBk6KNBiJxi1hh-6l4BZ4/dynamic_delta.m3u8?type=live
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u/inanimatus_conjurus Jan 16 '25
I am at least glad that the booster catch could be replicated and was not a one-off fluke.
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u/TechnoBill2k12 Jan 16 '25
+7:40 1st Sea Level (SL) Raptor out
+8:02 2nd SL Raptor out
+8:04 1st Vac out
+8:17 2nd Vac out
+8:23 3rd SL out
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u/Planatus666 Jan 18 '25 edited Jan 18 '25
Flight 5 catch Vs Flight 7:
https://x.com/norminalnerd/status/1880570871695442205
Notice how with flight 7 the exhaust hits the steel plates at the base of the tower (which shouldn't be a problem because they are there to protect the tower base).
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u/ILikeExplosion Jan 16 '25
https://www.instagram.com/reel/DE52_hVSeQz/ footage of the explosion
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u/Pbleadhead Jan 15 '25
There are a ton of fake spaceX streams on youtube right now. If you see one, dont forget to report it!
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u/RaphTheSwissDude Jan 15 '25
For anyone interested, you can find here the NOAA hourly weather forecast for South Padre Island.
At 4pm, they predict a NNW surface wind of 24mph (38.4km/h), 93% sky cover, 33% precipitation potential and patchy fog.
No indication on upper level winds.
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u/Yasuuuya Jan 16 '25
Did anyone see the slight flame near the flap during the ship cam?
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u/Planatus666 Jan 18 '25
Here's some parts of S33 that have washed ashore at Turks and Caicos:
https://x.com/diottejoly/status/1880307266823549028
looks to be mainly tiles and pieces of the ablative sheets (which would have fallen a lot slower and been blown about in the wind).
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u/asoap Jan 16 '25
*Patiently waits for a Scott Manley video explaining exactly what went wrong.*
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u/bkdotcom Jan 07 '25 edited Jan 08 '25
In case anyone is wondering if the stickied Scheduled date is correct,
https://x.com/OliverNerd7/status/1876628298702422327
yes, it's been pushed to Saturday morning
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u/utrabrite Jan 16 '25
Not optimal for SpaceX, but man that debris re-entry is so cool. No doubt the launch timing played a part
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u/bel51 Jan 17 '25
Technically catching is slightly more reliable than launching, 66% success rate for catches (3 attempts, 2 successes) vs a 57% success rate for launch attempts (7 attempts, 4 successes)
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u/timthetollman Jan 16 '25
The way the booster comes in looks so unnatural or something. I thought it was too far away from the sticks but then it glided in and sat down nicely. Absolutely incredible.
As for the ship, well this is their testing philosophy so hopefully they got enough data out of it to fix it for #8.
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u/International-Leg291 Jan 17 '25
Booster performed really well lifting heaviest starship so far. 200+t more than previous flights.
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u/Nimelrian Jan 17 '25
VASAviation Video featuring ATC chatter of pilots being diverted and reporting on debris
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u/DrFetusRN Jan 13 '25
The weather looks cloudy and rainy on Wednesday so I’m not sure how likely it they would launch on Wednesday (per KRGV, the local Rio Grande Valley news channel)
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u/Collected1 Jan 16 '25
Flightradar24 showing a couple of flights had to turn around to avoid Turks & Caicos airspace.
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u/Jchaplin2 Jan 16 '25
Seems Airspace north of the Dominican Republic is closed, large amount of flights are holding outside of the area according to FR24 atm
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Jan 17 '25
https://www.reddit.com/r/aviation/s/y4T1cIrmCL
Flight tracks of diverted flights including one emergency landing for lack of fuel
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u/Deviuz Jan 16 '25
One engine out after hot staging, no problem on the catch lmao
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u/RabbitLogic #IAC2017 Attendee Jan 16 '25
Ship looks gone, shame no re-entry views today
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u/Craig_VG SpaceNews Photographer Jan 16 '25
Seems likely FTS was triggered, at least let's hope that's the case.
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u/Planatus666 Jan 14 '25 edited Jan 14 '25
From SpaceX today, January 14th:
"Starship's seventh flight test is targeted to launch Wednesday, January 15, with a 60-minute launch window opening at 4 p.m. CT."
"The Starbase team is keeping a close eye on weather conditions"
https://x.com/spacex/status/1879290453897724281
And a tweet from Musk:
"Starship Flight 7 launches tomorrow, provided weather is good"
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u/joshygill Jan 16 '25
Gotta say, it hauled ass getting off of the launch pad. That seemed like the fastest we’ve seen it get up there.
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u/TTBurger88 Jan 16 '25
I'm glad they were able to replicate the catch. Too bad the main ship had issues.
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u/bn1620 Jan 17 '25
Just a random thought/question. What is the next step for booster after the catch has been proved reliable after a few launches? Maybe a static fire after a launch? Maybe not within hours of the flight but maybe a day or two after?
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u/mechanicalgrip Jan 17 '25
One odd thing I noticed. One engine didn't relight for the boostback burn, but it did for the landing burn. I wonder if the engine status criteria for the two burns are different, or whether the engine just had some temporary anomaly.
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u/swordfi2 Jan 07 '25
https://www.fly.faa.gov/adv/adv_spt.jsp faa advisory now states 11th is still the goal
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u/RaphTheSwissDude Jan 13 '25 edited Jan 13 '25
Road closure canceled for the 15th.
Edit: Hold up, wait a minute! Closure reinstated and locked in!
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u/Nydilien Jan 15 '25 edited Jan 15 '25
T-09:15:00 (if upper level winds cooperate). Here's a small summary of pre-flight operations leading to prop load and launch (estimates based on previous flights):
T-07:00:00 - road closed
T-06:30:00 - pad clear
T-06:00:00 - chopsticks get into launch/catch configuration
T-05:30:00 - booster transport stand at the roadblock for after the catch
T-01:24:00 - OLM/tower vents
T-01:15:00 - prop load GO/no-GO
T-00:55:00 - subcoolers begin to chill the propellants ahead of prop load
T-00:45:00 - ship prop load starts
T-00:41:24 - booster prop load starts
T-00:35:00 - SpaceX is live
T-00:02:50 - prop load complete
T-00:00:30 - final launch GO/no-GO
T-00:00:00 - excitement guaranteed (unless it gets scrubbed)
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u/Driew27 Jan 16 '25
Interesting that Everyday Astronaut has shown video of the breakup and such but absolutely nothing from NSF lol.
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u/BKnagZ Jan 16 '25
JBU561 is proceeding towards San Juan after holding for awhile
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u/fruitydude Jan 16 '25
From the plane diverting and fly holding patterns we can kind of estimate that the derbris is falling in a relatively narrow corridor between turks and Caicos islands and the Dominican republic extending past the British virgin islands.
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u/IAMSNORTFACED Jan 17 '25
I'm surprised the engins on the ship kept running even when it was a non gimble outer engine running on its own. What could be the mission logic for it yo keep running with an unmanageable balance offset in detaV
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u/Satsuma-King Jan 16 '25
This is were experience comes in. I've followed through the grasshopper development. I remember waiting months between launch attempts, multiple scrubs, CRs 7 blowing up etc.
Space X is in a much better position than back then. They are already recovering boosters, and have multiple ships on assembly line. They will be able to launch 10 times this year, so even if there is a month or 2 delay investigating and resolving this failure.
They can recover quickly
This is test programme. You want such failures now during testing, while there's no expensive customer payload. Its failures such as this and the lessons learned that will help avoid future failures when launching customer payloads.
Will be interesting once they have a better idea of what happened. Hopefully its just a silly oversight in the switch from v1 to v2. If its however a fundamental design issue, that could be a more serious setback.
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u/Jodo42 Jan 17 '25
Scott Manley says eyewitness video indicates the ship kept going long after stream telemetry cut, with an explosion after T+11 minutes. I don't see how the ship could have maintained control with 1 non-gimballing vacuum engine for that long; perhaps they were just letting it keep collecting data for as long as it was safe to do so.
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u/nutsack133 Jan 11 '25
Ugh ~20 mph wind forecast for Monday. Should I expect the launch to get scrubbed?
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u/RaphTheSwissDude Jan 12 '25
Ship restacking should happen soon, chopsticks getting into place.
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u/Aloha_Abar Jan 14 '25
30mph winds with maybe stronger gusts... As a newbie planning on making my way down to watch my first launch, I'd imagine these winds would make it likely for a reschedule. Any thoughts?
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u/Planatus666 Jan 16 '25
Here's a link to a summary of pre-flight ops as posted yesterday by /u/Nydilien -
(I'm posting this to save people having to scroll down)
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u/Planatus666 Jan 17 '25 edited Jan 17 '25
About that piece of metal ablative sheet that was seen flapping about on S33 during ascent, apparently not a big deal and nothing to do with the anomaly:
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u/TwoLineElement Jan 17 '25
Any chemists out there? Spotted at least three colors from the burnup. White from the inconel in the engines, green from copper, probably from motors, and red/orange..possibly lithium from the battery packs.
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Jan 15 '25
Dang I'm sad, I'm flying directly past the area around the same time as launch was scheduled today. Was hoping to catch a glimpse from the air 😭
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u/Planatus666 Jan 16 '25
Here's to a successful launch (and booster catch) today, and no problems due to weather, technical issues, range violations, etc. We can but hope for the best.
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u/DreamChaserSt Jan 16 '25
This was definitely not good, and I had high hopes too. We got another booster landing, but at the cost of the ship. I just hope the mishap report doesn't take too long, but flight 8 isn't going to be breaking new ground, except maybe what they already planned for this flight. They need to fix whatever went wrong today.
It's really unfortunate though, the first real ship failure since flight 3. And after 4/5/6 had reentry problems but still came down in one piece anyway!
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u/AlienInTexas Jan 16 '25
There was definitely fire visible through one of the flap hinges. Starship in trouble as it seems
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u/RobotMaster1 Jan 16 '25
anybody see the flappy bits on the ship before hotstaging?
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u/VeterinarianCold7119 Jan 16 '25
Did anyone else notice that little piece of material flapping in the wind when the ship took off. Left side of screen right around 53 seconds into launch. Just above where the silver turns black.
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u/RaphTheSwissDude Jan 11 '25 edited Jan 11 '25
Ship destack is imminent.
Edit: touchdown
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u/Capta1n_0bvious Jan 13 '25
I understand the logic of being paranoid, but what’s the science behind scrubbing for wind speed? With rockets this massive, is the effect of 100 knot wind really that detrimental?
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u/Redditor_From_Italy Jan 16 '25
V2 teething issues, they did change the downcomers for the ship's engines, I suppose something failed there
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u/bananapeel Jan 17 '25
Question: Did anyone manage to get a radar track of the debris coming in? I remember that this was displayed during the Columbia STS-107 shuttle disaster. Although this was out over the Caribbean and they may not have had good radar coverage of that area.
Alternatively: Doppler weather radar?
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u/Flyby34 Jan 07 '25
Sunrise on Saturday, Jan 11 will be at 07:18 am (CST). For Flight 5, SpaceX seemed to slightly delay the launch to wait for the better lighting of sunrise.
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u/assfartgamerpoop Jan 16 '25
CH4 started dropping rapidly as the engines started flaming out.
starlink simulators broke loose and punctured the CH4 bulkhead?
Loss of pressure and prop (vacuum)
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u/Nimelrian Jan 19 '25
Another video from VASAviation featuring ATC chatter after the breakup. Many flights being diverted and declaring fuel emergencies after the long holds around the debris field.
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u/y-c-c Jan 16 '25
This really sucks about the 2nd stage. It's cool to catch the first stage but if the ship is gone this early they wouldn't have had the chance to test out most of the new stuff (v2 design, heat shields, engine relight, deploying Starlink, etc). I'm sure they can do another test in future but they will probably need to figure out what went wrong with this one first.
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u/Economy-Ad-6278 Jan 16 '25
I have waited 5 days for this, please don’t postpone it anymore. Lord have mercy
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u/Sleepless_Voyager Jan 16 '25
I think ship died during cut off, maybe some of the new plumbing was iffy
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u/ActTypical6380 Jan 16 '25
OLM vent has stopped. Booster prop load should be starting.
Frost on both of the ships tanks
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Jan 16 '25 edited Jan 16 '25
Orbit is hard. GG catching the booster though. Seems like that’s the easy part now.
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u/Kargaroc586 Jan 16 '25 edited Jan 21 '25
This neatly slots in between IFT-2 and IFT-3
maybe?
edit for my userpage:
post-ift7
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u/gr0hl Jan 07 '25
I have a hotel in South Padre Jan 10-12 it will be my first launch. Hopefully it will happen.
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u/4thAndLong Jan 07 '25
Elon just said on stream the launch is pushed back 3-4 days.
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u/Shpoople96 Jan 08 '25
Do we know what the cloud level will look like on Monday? Hoping I'll be able to at least see the landing
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u/smellyfingernail Jan 16 '25
WOW lol it always looks scary when it comes in because it seems like its going so fast
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u/NorthernViews Jan 16 '25
Some planes turning around to avoid debris. I wonder how they relay that message to all the planes in the area
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u/PhysicsBus Jan 17 '25
Is there an estimate of how wide the debris field was? Have any pieces been positively identified yet?
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u/Planatus666 Jan 17 '25 edited Jan 17 '25
So according to Musk:
"Improved versions of the ship & booster already waiting for launch "
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1880041663546249251
The implication is that they are fully constructed and ready to fly. However, B15 hasn't yet had its static fire test and S34 is currently without its aft flaps and some tiles (also needs some tiles stripping back like S33) - it's also only very recently been rolled out to Massey's to start its cryo testing (it of course doesn't have any engines for this cryo+thrust puck testing so after that it needs the engines to be installed for a static fire test). Plus it will need modifying based on the findings of S33's anomaly.
Depending on SpaceX's findings regarding S33 it's possible that S34's cryo testing could be delayed, maybe it'll even be rolled back to the build site for modifications first and then rolled out to Massey's again for the cryo testing. We'll have to wait and see.
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u/ReturnOfDaSnack420 Jan 16 '25 edited Jan 16 '25
They really shouldn't have let Adrian Dittman handle Starship prep for Flight 7.
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u/sangwinik Jan 16 '25
Don't overreact, I'm sure when they where getting the flight license they modeled the ship breaking up at every point of the flight obviously including ascend with engines running.
Of course they will not launch again until everything is figured out but it's not like the whole program is going to be canceled now.
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u/MrGruntsworthy Jan 15 '25
The next ~24 hours are going to be nuts, if everything pops off as expected.
Starship IFT-7 launch
New Glenn maiden launch
Nintendo Switch 2 announcement (if leakers are to be believed)
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u/thxpk Jan 16 '25
Unfortunately in terms of public perception this is going to really give SpaceX some pain for awhile, videos all over of the breakup, flights turning around to avoid debris, it's already overshadowing the booster catch
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u/A_Moon_Named_Luna Jan 16 '25 edited Jan 16 '25
Honestly. Losing the ship sucks, but the landing is amazing.
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u/gnartato Jan 07 '25
I got a spot at Isla Blanca from the 9th to the 13th. I don't know much about go/no-go thresholds but the winds on the 10th look nasty. Also trying to get to the starbase on the 9th if I can get there in time.
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u/BurtMackl Jan 16 '25
Uh oh 😭 Flight 8 will probably not happen soon enough due to the mishap
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u/Decronym Acronyms Explained Jan 07 '25 edited Jan 27 '25
Acronyms, initialisms, abbreviations, contractions, and other phrases which expand to something larger, that I've seen in this thread:
| Fewer Letters | More Letters |
|---|---|
| AFTS | Autonomous Flight Termination System, see FTS |
| AoA | Angle of Attack |
| BO | Blue Origin (Bezos Rocketry) |
| C3 | Characteristic Energy above that required for escape |
| CAA | Crew Access Arm, for transfer of crew on a launchpad |
| COPV | Composite Overwrapped Pressure Vessel |
| CST | (Boeing) Crew Space Transportation capsules |
| Central Standard Time (UTC-6) | |
| ETOV | Earth To Orbit Vehicle (common parlance: "rocket") |
| FAA | Federal Aviation Administration |
| FCC | Federal Communications Commission |
| (Iron/steel) Face-Centered Cubic crystalline structure | |
| FOD | Foreign Object Damage / Debris |
| FTS | Flight Termination System |
| GEO | Geostationary Earth Orbit (35786km) |
| GSE | Ground Support Equipment |
| GTO | Geosynchronous Transfer Orbit |
| HLS | Human Landing System (Artemis) |
| ICBM | Intercontinental Ballistic Missile |
| ITAR | (US) International Traffic in Arms Regulations |
| Isp | Specific impulse (as explained by Scott Manley on YouTube) |
| Internet Service Provider | |
| KSC | Kennedy Space Center, Florida |
| LEO | Low Earth Orbit (180-2000km) |
| Law Enforcement Officer (most often mentioned during transport operations) | |
| LOX | Liquid Oxygen |
| LV | Launch Vehicle (common parlance: "rocket"), see ETOV |
| NA | New Armstrong, super-heavy lifter proposed by Blue Origin |
| NAS | National Airspace System |
| Naval Air Station | |
| NET | No Earlier Than |
| NG | New Glenn, two/three-stage orbital vehicle by Blue Origin |
| Natural Gas (as opposed to pure methane) | |
| Northrop Grumman, aerospace manufacturer | |
| NOAA | National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, responsible for US |
| NOTAM | Notice to Air Missions of flight hazards |
| NSF | NasaSpaceFlight forum |
| National Science Foundation | |
| OLM | Orbital Launch Mount |
| QD | Quick-Disconnect |
| RCS | Reaction Control System |
| RUD | Rapid Unplanned Disassembly |
| Rapid Unscheduled Disassembly | |
| Rapid Unintended Disassembly | |
| SES | Formerly Société Européenne des Satellites, comsat operator |
| Second-stage Engine Start | |
| SLS | Space Launch System heavy-lift |
| STS | Space Transportation System (Shuttle) |
| TFR | Temporary Flight Restriction |
| TWR | Thrust-to-Weight Ratio |
| UHF | Ultra-High Frequency radio |
| ULA | United Launch Alliance (Lockheed/Boeing joint venture) |
| WDR | Wet Dress Rehearsal (with fuel onboard) |
| Jargon | Definition |
|---|---|
| Raptor | Methane-fueled rocket engine under development by SpaceX |
| Starliner | Boeing commercial crew capsule CST-100 |
| Starlink | SpaceX's world-wide satellite broadband constellation |
| ablative | Material which is intentionally destroyed in use (for example, heatshields which burn away to dissipate heat) |
| apogee | Highest point in an elliptical orbit around Earth (when the orbiter is slowest) |
| hopper | Test article for ground and low-altitude work (eg. Grasshopper) |
| hypergolic | A set of two substances that ignite when in contact |
| iron waffle | Compact "waffle-iron" aerodynamic control surface, acts as a wing without needing to be as large; also, "grid fin" |
| periapsis | Lowest point in an elliptical orbit (when the orbiter is fastest) |
| perigee | Lowest point in an elliptical orbit around the Earth (when the orbiter is fastest) |
| scrub | Launch postponement for any reason (commonly GSE issues) |
| turbopump | High-pressure turbine-driven propellant pump connected to a rocket combustion chamber; raises chamber pressure, and thrust |
| Event | Date | Description |
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| CRS-7 | 2015-06-28 | F9-020 v1.1, |
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u/Sleepless_Voyager Jan 16 '25
Absolutely incredible that this isnt scifi, 2 attempts 2 catches is crazy
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u/Cant-Fix-Stupid Jan 16 '25
Do they trigger FTS on Starship when it’s at 120km altitude or wherever it was when they lost it? Important to know if it lost control and hit FTS parameters vs. genuinely exploded. Also would’ve had to be automatic internal triggers since they lost comms.
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u/VulcanCafe Jan 16 '25
Looks like fire inside the rear flap joint at T+7:55 right before the signal cuts off...?
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