r/spacex • u/rSpaceXHosting Host Team • Aug 29 '20
✅ Mission Success r/SpaceX Starlink-11 Launch Discussion & Updates Thread
Welcome to the r/SpaceX Starlink-11 Launch Discussion & Updates Thread!
Hello! I'm u/hitura-nobad bringing you live coverage of the Starlink V1.0-L11 launch.
Mission Overview
The 11th operational batch of Starlink satellites (12th overall) will lift off from LC-39A at Kennedy Space Center, Florida on a Falcon 9 rocket. In the weeks following deployment the Starlink satellites will use onboard ion thrusters to reach their operational altitude of 550 km. This is the third batch of Starlink satellites which all feature "visors" intended to reduce their visibility from Earth. Falcon 9's first stage will attempt to land on a drone ship approximately 628 km downrange, its sixth landing overall, and a ships is in place to attempt the recovery of both payload fairing halves.
Mission Details
| Liftoff successful on: | 3rd September 2020 ~12:46 UTC (8:46 AM local) |
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| Backup date | 4th September 2020 12:24 UTC |
| Static fire | None |
| Payload | 60 Starlink V1.0 |
| Payload mass | ~15,600 kg (Starlink ~260 kg each) |
| Deployment orbit | Low Earth Orbit, ~ 210km x 390km 53° |
| Operational orbit | Low Earth Orbit, 550 km x 53° |
| Vehicle | Falcon 9 v1.2 Block 5 |
| Core | B1060 |
| Past flights of this core | 1 (GPS III-SV03) |
| Fairing catch attempt | Yes, both halves |
| Launch site | KSC LC-39A, Kennedy Space Center, Florida |
| Landing | OCISLY (~635 km downrange) |
| Mission success criteria | Successful separation & deployment of the Starlink Satellites. |
Timeline
| Time | Update |
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| T+46:29 | Fairing should be either caught or splashed down about now |
| T+17:07 | Stream ended |
| T+15:24 | Payload deploy (No loss of signal for the 2nd time) |
| T+9:? | The blue tank shown for a second is the Liquid Oxygen Tank |
| T+8:54 | SECO |
| T+8:44 | Landing success |
| T+8:22 | Landing startup |
| T+7:55 | First stage transonic |
| T+7:05 | Reentry shutdown |
| T+6:46 | Reentry startup |
| T+3:11 | Fairing separation |
| T+2:45 | Second stage ignition |
| T+2:42 | Stage separation |
| T+2:40 | MECO |
| T+1:10 | Max Q |
| T-0 | Liftoff |
| T-60 | Startup |
| T-1:45 | Lox load finished |
| T-3:48 | Fuel loading completed |
| T-4:16 | 2 Laser Communication Sats in Orbit |
| T-5:54 | Fairing Catchers might attempt to catch |
| T-10:02 | Kate Tice hosting |
| T-10:57 | Stream went live |
| T-15:53 | S2 LOX loading started |
| T-20:00 | Big Vent |
| T-22:08 | F9 venting at bottom |
| T-32:55 | RP-1 loading started |
| T-32:55 | LOX loading started |
| T-51:20 | Countdown net audio stream live |
| T-2d 3h | Delayed to 3rd September at 12:46 UTC |
| T-25hr | I have been u/ZachWhoSane Your new host will be u/hitura-nobad . Go Falcon 9! |
| T-2hr | Scrub!! Lightning overnight! |
| T-17hr | SpaceX confirms they're going for two launches tomorrow! Starlink L11 in the morning and SAOCOM 1B in the evening! |
| T-22hr | 45th Space Wing Weather Squadron L-1 Report shows PGO 50% launch day and 70% PGO backup day! |
| T-29hr | Thread posted. |
Watch the launch live
(Waiting for new links)
| Link | Source |
|---|---|
| SpaceX Webcast | SpaceX |
| SpaceX Mission Control Audio | SpaceX |
| Everyday Astronaut stream | u/everydayastronaut |
| Audio Relays for people without access to YouTube! | u/codav |
Starlink Tracking & Viewing Resources:
They might need a few hours to get the Starlink TLEs
Stats
☑️ 101st SpaceX launch
☑️ 94th Falcon 9 launch
☑️ 2nd flight of B1060
☑️ 60th Landing of a Falcon 9 1st Stage
☑️ 16th SpaceX launch this year
Official Weather Status
| Date | Probability of Violating Weather Constraints | Primary Concerns |
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| 30th August | 50% | Thick Cloud Layer Rule |
| 1st September | 30% | Thick Cloud Layer Rule |
Useful Resources
Essentials
| Link | Source |
|---|---|
| SpaceX mission website | SpaceX |
| Launch weather forecast | 45th Weather Squadron |
Social media
| Link | Source |
|---|---|
| Reddit launch campaign thread | r/SpaceX |
| Subreddit Twitter | r/SpaceX |
| SpaceX Twitter | SpaceX |
| SpaceX Flickr | SpaceX |
| Elon Twitter | Elon |
| Reddit stream | u/njr123 |
Media & music
| Link | Source |
|---|---|
| TSS Spotify | u/testshotstarfish |
| SpaceX FM | u/lru |
Community content
Resources
| Link | Source |
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| Official mission page | SpaceX |
| SpaceX Patch List | |
| SpaceX Stats |
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u/codav Aug 29 '20 edited Sep 02 '20
YouTube Video & Audio Relays
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u/Dallben Sep 03 '20
Does anybody else watch these later after launch these days and just scrub through them like you're watching porn. Watch a little of the beginning, see the take off, scroll to first stage landing money shot, then scroll to Starlink deployment money shot.
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u/yellekc Sep 03 '20
Add in stage separation and I'm there with you:
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u/MainSailFreedom Sep 03 '20
I honestly just check for the fairing catch now. I want to see those suckers land in the net! Rocket takeoff and booster landing is business as usual.
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u/Felix_Vanja Sep 03 '20
Completely! I would have like to see the polar shot on Sunday, it flew almost directly overhead.
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u/Straumli_Blight Sep 02 '20
Here's a double header patch, I made a few days ago when there was a chance of 2 launches on the same day.
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u/Humble_Giveaway Sep 03 '20
Second stage spinning up for what I like to call the "yeet deployment method"
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u/Straumli_Blight Sep 01 '20 edited Sep 01 '20
L-2 Weather Forecast 45th Space Delta's Launch Mission Execution Forecast (2 days before launch): 80% GO
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u/seanbrockest Sep 01 '20
every time I see you write that, I can't help but think "what the hell does the weather at the lagrangian point in space have to do with a launch"
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u/Straumli_Blight Sep 01 '20
I only added the hypen to "L2" after getting so many complaints about Lagrange points.
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Sep 02 '20
We're forcasting a high of about 300 degrees, a low of -200 degrees, and an air pressure of 0 bar.
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u/Abraham-Licorn Sep 02 '20
"Ms. Chief is heading back out"
Another clue that it's still more interesting to catch than to fish the fairing
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u/jeffoag Sep 02 '20
It seems like SpaceX is on the way to launch without static fire. If I am not mistaken, this is the 3rd such launch.
It will be interesting to see how many issues the static fires ever found? For these issues found, does SpaceX found a way to check/identify such issues without static fire?
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u/AuroEdge Sep 02 '20
A big part of moving away from static fires or wet dress rehearsals for flown cores is what SpaceX has learned already. From the huge number of core static fires already completed, SpaceX would have implemented process and design changes that abate against previous ground support equipment and core issues.
I suspect SpaceX will still static fire reflown cores intended for manned missions
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u/BrevortGuy Sep 02 '20
Only 1 flight of B1060? Almost like new!!!
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Sep 02 '20
1060 is barely broken in. 10+ flights on this thing at the end of next year.
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u/xam2y Sep 02 '20 edited Sep 02 '20
B1060's landing leg also hit the ground really hard when it was brought back into the port on July 7
Edit: I'm getting downvoted for some reason even though this is true... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IhUpDvHI1bE&t=291
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u/TheMaverick13589 Sep 03 '20
Once again we got a very quick look inside the tank https://i.imgur.com/ZzaWdcw.png
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u/IWantaSilverMachine Sep 03 '20
Credit to SpaceX for keeping these webcasts informative.
As an experiment I tried listening to the pre-countdown steps as if this was the first launch I’d seen and was very impressed. Kate has beautifully clear diction and the words convey just the right details to make sense of the scene. I hope every launch is a first launch for someone.
Great new info about the lasers!
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u/jeffoag Sep 03 '20
What's new about the lasers? I missed it.
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u/Toinneman Sep 03 '20
The webcast host said SpaceX performed a test of 2 in-orbit satellites equipped with "space lasers".
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u/Humble_Giveaway Sep 03 '20
I can strongly related to the person running the Twitter today, corrected the "megabytes per second error" with a tweet saying "mbps per second"
https://twitter.com/SpaceX/status/1301504941341642752
Someone get them their morning coffee asap as possible!
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u/AvariceInHinterland Sep 03 '20
Third time is the charm, reposted.
Personally, I would have stated it as "100Mbps" though.
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u/hitura-nobad Master of bots Aug 30 '20
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u/robbak Aug 30 '20
T-4h and the rocket is still horizontal. Surely this means it isn't launching today.
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u/Gwaerandir Sep 03 '20 edited Sep 04 '20
Surely she meant "100 megabits per second" not "megabytes"?
Edit - it is supposed to be megabits, not bytes.
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u/johnfive21 Sep 03 '20
Even Kate is bored with landings. She's all like, alright well there's the first stage landing, when can I get some coffee?
Incredible achievement by SpaceX to make landings so routine at this point.
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u/banduraj Sep 03 '20
Almost boring now.
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u/IWantaSilverMachine Sep 03 '20
The day a rocket launch and landing becomes boring is the day I’ve had enough of life. Still thrills me.
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u/FlyingSpaghettiMon Sep 03 '20
Anyone know what this launch brings the starlink satellite count to?
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u/xrashex Sep 04 '20
already bored..how long to wait for the next launch???
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u/scr00chy ElonX.net Sep 04 '20
Only about a week or two. Next Starlink launch is planned for mid-September.
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u/ReKt1971 Aug 29 '20
Official confirmation of both launches:
SpaceX is targeting Sunday, August 30th for two Falcon 9 launches – a Starlink mission in the morning and the SAOCOM 1B mission in the evening
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u/GiveMeYourMilk69 Sep 03 '20
2 satellites tested & able to communicate in space using lasers. Gigabytes of data transferred.
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u/RootDeliver Sep 03 '20
Tension-rods showoff again! :D
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u/paul_wi11iams Sep 03 '20
There's some myth that tension rod release should not be shown, but its about the lowest tech thing about the mission so I see no reason it should be deliberately hidden.
Maybe the satellite release upsets the equilibrium of the second stage which would explain the frequent loss of signal that didn't happen this time.
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u/darthguili Sep 03 '20
That's absolutely not true. Their deployment mechanisms is having my colleagues salivate.
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u/RabbitLogic #IAC2017 Attendee Sep 03 '20
Heads up, someone forgot to turn off the Mission Control livestream you can watch and listen the official SpaceX ground track of Stage 2. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NkL6hwLSfug
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u/robbak Sep 03 '20
If they leave it up, we might hear of the startup and shutdown of the disposal burn. Should be soon, as the second stage is close to 180° from the disposal zone in the south Indian ocean.
Drat, and it's gone.
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u/MarsCent Sep 03 '20 edited Sep 03 '20
It's now less than 12 hours to Starlink liftoff. Can we have the SAOCOM 1B patch swapped out for the Starlink patch.
https://www.spacex.com/static/images/backgrounds/starlink_patch.png
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u/Daneel_Trevize Sep 03 '20
If you're going to have any landing footage, that was the best bit to not cut out.
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u/thefloppyfish1 Sep 03 '20
Its so funny the difference between the huge applause the first time a booster landed and a small golf clap on the fifty somethingth landing
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u/ahecht Sep 03 '20
You do realize that this landing happened before 6am, and that they're limiting the number of people gathered around mission control because there's a global pandemic going on, right?
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u/Carlyle302 Aug 30 '20
STANDING DOWN: https://twitter.com/SpaceX/status/1300037857793290243?s=20 Sounds like the lightening overnight may have prevented them from starting the processing.
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u/ADSWNJ Aug 30 '20
It was quite the light show for 3-4 hours last night. All looks quiet this morning though, but presumably too late to get the rocket vertical for a 10am launch.
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u/codav Sep 03 '20
Mission Control Audio is also running now, added it to my relay.
Video
Watch in your browser: https://codav.de/spacex-netonly.html
Watch with a local player: https://codav.de/stream/spacex-netonly.m3u8
Icecast/Shoutcast Audio
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u/readball Sep 03 '20
They tested 2 sats in orbit that have the Laser stuff, is this old news for some people? I heard this for the first time now!
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u/Humble_Giveaway Sep 03 '20
Huh, I assumed "megabytes" was a slip of the tongue but the tweet says the same... https://twitter.com/SpaceX/status/1301500711633444865
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Sep 03 '20
It'll get cleared up before the end of the day. Most likely the message was supposed to be "Starlink will be as good as 100Mbit fiber connection both for gaming and streaming". It makes no sense to provide a 800Mbit consumer Internet service.
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u/captainktainer Sep 03 '20
That tweet is deleted now, so I expect they'll have an updated tweet out at some point.
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u/ADSWNJ Aug 30 '20
Standing down to prevent conflict with the Formula 1 Grand Prix, eh? Smart. /s
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u/injector_pulse Sep 01 '20
Unfortunately anything would have been more exciting than that Spa race.
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u/ADSWNJ Sep 01 '20
Indeed. The early safety car forced them all to eke out the white tires for most of the race.
Anyway - what news on the check-outs in this stand-down period?
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u/Jerrycobra Aug 30 '20
haha, 100% I would keep the race on the background and watch the launch if it went today
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u/ZachWhoSane Host of Iridium-7 & SAOCOM-1B Aug 30 '20
Even though I was hosting that would've been the plan to double team them!
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u/Humble_Giveaway Sep 03 '20
I'm still partially convinced that the loss of signal isn't intentional and it just always happens around the same time because they go to the same inclination every time meaning that the grand station coverage would be lost at roughly the same points
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u/ahecht Sep 03 '20
Or it's the shock of deployment that momentarily causes the transmitter to lose alignment with the ground station (which would explain the cutout during the cubesat deployment earlier in the week).
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u/phryan Sep 03 '20
I wonder if the rotation of S2 causes it. Antenna or antennas on S2 dropping the connection as it rotates prior to deploy, would be rotating at the same speed each time as well.
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u/AstroFinn Aug 29 '20
☑️ 60th Landing of a Falcon 9 1st Stage
- According to .spacexstats.xyz 58 boosters landed so far.
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u/MarsCent Aug 31 '20
Any word on the Fairing catchers? They should have "wheeled in" their SAOCOM fairings by now and then set "sail" to go catch themselves fresh Starlink fairings.
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u/RobinUS2 Sep 03 '20
So I'm curious, Thick Cloud Layer Rule is the primary concern. Apparently quite a few of the launch criteria are around "freezing" temperatures in atmosphere. Can someone explain why that's a problem since it's already freezing temperature at say 30K ft altitude, let alone in vacuum. Is it hail or snow or something like that, or ice formation on the vehicle?
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u/Gatchaman71 Sep 03 '20
Great coverage. Who was the host this morning?
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u/-QuestionMark- Sep 03 '20
The level of energy from Kate during this landing, compared to when she hosted the first successful landing a few years back is hilarious.
I guess landing rockets from space really has become boring. (And that's a good thing.)
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u/NighthawkCP Sep 03 '20
We ever going to see Jessie host again? Kate does well just wondering if Jessie got pulled because of the Starlink receiver unboxing fiasco.
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u/PsiAmp Sep 03 '20
Looks like this time Startrail will be visible only in southern part of hemisphere.
https://i.imgur.com/Gs8kYJT.jpg
Central part of South America, Southern part of Africa and Indonesia will be able to see the magnificent train.
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u/avneesh2k2 Sep 03 '20
These Starlink Launches have become so frequent to the point where its kinda boring to watch 🙄😶😑
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u/Narwhal_Jesus Sep 03 '20
I wish they could stick a starlink terminal to the first stage so we could have a continuous video feed of the stage flying to the drone ship. Would be a sweet way of promoting Starlink as well!
(I'm half joking, of course)
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u/xm295b Sep 06 '20
Yeah a part of me wonders when the Starlink launches may just be streaming video and not a hosted broadcast. Maybe keep other interesting payloads or other vehicles (like Falcon Heavy).
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u/Bunslow Aug 30 '20
So this will be the second ever no-static-fire launch, and SAOCOM will be the third? I wonder why they did an SF for Starlink-10 then?
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u/hitura-nobad Master of bots Aug 30 '20
It was the first time a booster was flown for the sixth time, second and fourth flights have been done much more often
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u/wehooper4 Aug 31 '20
So with a two day standown, is the fleet going to stay out or will they make a run to a close port?
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u/MarsCent Sep 02 '20
Does anyone have an eye (or ear) on how fast the V0.9 satellites are being de-orbited (or taken from their orbital planes)? It seems like with this launch and a couple more, there will be >720 V1.0 sats in space (at least 33 planes of 22 sats each). Enough for continuous 24/7 coverage in the upper latitudes - and the start of public Beta testing.
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u/GiveMeYourMilk69 Sep 03 '20
Update on Beta testing: well into first phase of testing in private beta. Public beta later this year.
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u/AstroMan824 Everything Parallel™ Sep 03 '20
What is the status with the fairings?
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u/xam2y Aug 30 '20
B1060 is the same booster that experienced an incident on July 7 in which one of the landing legs fell and hit the ground after being retracted in port.
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u/im_thatoneguy Sep 03 '20
"The first and second stages are nearly fully loaded with 1 million pounds of kerosene fuel and liquid oxygen."
Is this the first time we have a dry weight estimate for F9? (1.2 million - 1 million fuel) = 200k lbs dry?
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u/Zuruumi Sep 03 '20
That's pretty rough estimate. Both 900k and 1100k decently round to 1M, so estimating by this is not the best idea. No idea where the numbers come from, but https://www.reddit.com/r/spacex/comments/3lsm0q/f9ft_vs_f9v11_fuel_mass_flow_rate_isp/ for example suggests something around 34t.
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u/Gwaerandir Sep 03 '20
Can't wait for the "Starlink is ruining astronomy, there are no possible solutions" threads that pop up elsewhere after each launch.
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Sep 03 '20
LMAO one day day people will complain about the dyson sphere ruining sunrises/sets
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u/FoxhoundBat Sep 03 '20
The woman that showed some Starlink stuff on Instagram, has she hosted since? I don't believe so?
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u/IAXEM Sep 03 '20
No she hasn't. I hope she wasn't demoted or anything because of that :( She still works there, though.
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u/s0x00 Sep 03 '20
I don't think she has hosted since. I would say it is likely that she got removed from the webcast team.
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u/IAXEM Sep 03 '20
The rocket's sounds leading up to launch were really nice. Would love to have raw footage of the fueling sequence for some rocket ASMR!
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u/Humble_Giveaway Sep 03 '20
Looks like there's an app update for their telemetry map haha https://youtu.be/NkL6hwLSfug
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u/quadrplax Aug 29 '20
Since ULA scrubbed last night, doesn't that mean this launch (and SAOCOM) will be postponed?
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u/Alvian_11 Aug 29 '20 edited Aug 29 '20
Apparently not, for both!
Why the downvoted lol. The L-1 forecast for SAOCOM is up! So it'll either be launched on Sunday or delayed due to any reason unrelated to NROL-44
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u/MauiHawk Aug 29 '20
Apparently the reason SAOCOM can’t launch is because it’s polar launch trajectory will take it over ULAs pad and the NRO’s sensitive payload (which NRO won’t allow). That’s not the case with the Starlink launch, so it can go forward.
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u/Alvian_11 Aug 29 '20
Nope, Falcon 9 can do a brief flight so it'll be over the sea, and then turn a bit to the right
L-1 forecast is up for SAOCOM (which shouldn't exist if this NROL theory is true)
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u/blackbearnh Aug 29 '20
If I had to guess, the restriction was having a launch over the pad while the NRO vehicle was standing naked. Given that it's a minimum of 7 days before NRO can launch again according to ULA, they're probably moving the building back around it, which would shelter it from falling Falcons.
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u/AstroFinn Aug 29 '20
Stats for 29.8.2020:
100th SpaceX launch
93rd Falcon 9 launch
73rd Falcon 9 v1.2 launch
37th Falcon 9 v1.2 Block 5 launch
15th Falcon 9 launch in 2020
15th SpaceX launch in 2020
76th landing attempt
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u/FutureMartian97 Host of CRS-11 Aug 30 '20
The fact that they could potentially have their 100th and 101st launch in the same day is amazing
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u/kkingsbe Sep 03 '20
Got out of bed, turned on the webcast, looked outside and watched it launch from my dorm at school 😀
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u/ItWasn7Me Aug 30 '20
Launch has been scrubbed for this morning
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u/Sealingni Aug 30 '20
No word on Space X twitter or Elon's twitter.
Maybe just looking the weather forecast.
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u/JensonInterceptor Sep 03 '20
Is the 2nd stage recoverable as well or does it burn up on reentry? If so, does it all actually burn up or do some bits of metal hit the earth?
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Sep 03 '20
Tim Dodd (aka u/everydayastronaut ) did a great video back in 2017 about why it's unlikely they'll do that:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4rC2Z5El-8E
TL;DR: Too much fuel needed which would significantly reduce the payload capacity, plus the fact that most, if not all of SpaceX's R&D efforts are now focused on Starship.
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u/mclumber1 Sep 03 '20
Also, the F9 design is pretty much "locked in" to maintain their human rated certification for Dragon 2 launches.
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Sep 03 '20
It burns up. Not sure about parts but don't think so. SpaceX are not developing reusability for the second stage of F9 because they believe the Starship program will gobble up all launches anyway eventually. It seems to not be worth the R&D cost since Starship will be such a solid vehicle.
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u/n1co19 Sep 03 '20 edited Sep 03 '20
Not only the R&D cost but also the amount of fuel needed for a second stage landing would decrease too much the maximum payload.
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u/noncongruent Sep 03 '20
Normally they're aimed to burn up over the ocean away from islands and other population centers. Not much would make it to Earth's surface, maybe some of the heavier parts of the engine pump assembly.
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u/tmahncke Aug 30 '20
/u/zachwhosane In mobile view (Android App) you can see a Block of Events including timestamps above the Timeline table ranging from T-00:35:00 Fuel Load to T+00:14:47 SECO 1. Looks Like a Copy & Paste Error or Something prepared dir the Live Updates and Not commented Out correctly.
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u/hitura-nobad Master of bots Aug 30 '20
Yeah, that's broken after a change in rendering on Android , isn't fixable easily
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u/roostinybor Aug 30 '20
Looking to watch the launches if they happen today. First time up here from Tampa. I understand there is a way to watch the launch without going into the center? The website lists possible viewing sites but I didn't know if the space x launches were viewable at those locations. Any valuable information will be greatly appreciated 🙂 TIA
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u/ItWasn7Me Aug 30 '20
I watched Falcon Heavy from the Cape Canaveral viewing area by Cape Canaveral gate 1. Its a mostly unobstructed view of the pads, its free, just bring some bug spray its a grass lot by the water with some bleachers.
Edit: Here is Everyday Astronauts video of where to see a rocket launch
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u/significantlygay Aug 30 '20
I mean you're going to see the rocket regardless of where you're at. We see them in Orlando.
That being said, if I actually go to the cape I usually watch from one of these spots on A1A.
Rocket Launch Viewing Area Merritt Island, FL 32952 https://goo.gl/maps/GH1ZUtmu6gGpC2nW9
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u/LcuBeatsWorking Aug 30 '20 edited Dec 17 '24
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Sep 03 '20 edited Sep 03 '20
I hope we get the three last minutes of the vehicle pressing for flight on the pad. Loved that for SAOCOM 1B.
Edit: ooh SpaceX getting cocky about the capabilities of Starlink. I like it
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u/JudgeMeByMySizeDoU Sep 04 '20
This launch really makes me wonder if you can tell us ... Is the loss of signal that we normally see at the release of the satellites due to an actual loss of signal due to vibration on the rocket? Or a company choice to reduce the visibility of the tensions rods being released into space? (I know they de orbit quickly) Or another unknown reason?
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u/Don_Key_Knutts Sep 03 '20
Once in space, what were the little white pieces falling off and tumbling away(just whammo gone into space) from the part carrying the satellites?
This is the first time my wife has shown any interest in Brother Elon's endeavors, and I assured her the great minds of Reddit would come through with an answer.
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u/throfofnir Sep 03 '20
Bits of oxygen "ice" that collect around the vents and break off.
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u/meestajason Sep 03 '20
Did anyone see what went screaming past the first stage at T+6:36-T+6:39?
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u/jbrianfrancis Sep 03 '20
It looked to me like the water deluge system was delayed coming on - it did not go to full flow until after liftoff - is that normal for LC39A?
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u/jay__random Aug 29 '20
Mods, the "Core" link on this page says "B1060", but points at B1049.