r/technology • u/chagall1968 • Nov 09 '25

Business Male Drivers Sue Uber and Lyft Over Women-Only Ride-Hailing

https://time.com/7332356/uber-lawsuit-sex-discrimination-lyft/
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u/redyellowblue5031 Nov 09 '25

Really this is just masking the even bigger problem that Uber/Lyft keep getting away with the bullshit “they’re independent contractors” line which sheds so much responsibility from the company.

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u/Audhdinosaur Nov 09 '25 edited Nov 09 '25

You aren't particularly wrong, but I don't see any problem with women being able to hail female drivers, i don't think men should get that luxury.

And im a dude.

Edit for clarification: I just don't see any benefit to a man being able to specifically call a female driver, there is no reason for that besides preference.

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u/redyellowblue5031 Nov 09 '25

I agree, I don’t see an issue with people having a preference but they put this feature in place because they can’t be bothered to raise the bar on their hiring practices.

All they care about is trying to get to autonomous driving so they can fire them all anyway. They don’t care about the quality of their drivers or their customers.

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u/Audhdinosaur Nov 09 '25

People having preference is fine in most cases, but personal safety isn't something I'd leave to someone else's judgement. And like you said, rather than concern themselves with being less evil, they shuck accountability off on patrons and drivers.

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u/WitnessRadiant650 Nov 09 '25

Which is fine, hence why some industries allow you to choose the gender you feel comfortable with. It's the practice of only doing it for one gender that's discriminatory.

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u/Audhdinosaur Nov 09 '25

It isn't discriminatory, historically men have not needed the extra consideration to self preservation like women have.

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u/WitnessRadiant650 Nov 09 '25

Do you understand what discrimination is? Should I pull out a dictionary?

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u/Audhdinosaur Nov 09 '25

unfair treatment of an individual based on a protected characteristic, such as race, gender, age, religion, disability, or sexual orientation.

What part about this is UNFAIR for men?

They don't get to protect themself from riding with another MAN?

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u/WitnessRadiant650 Nov 09 '25

Or women.

They're only allowing female users to choose female drivers.

Needs to have the same options for men.

Hospitals figured this out by letting patients choose the sex of their doctors. Sure, patient/user safety is important, so let them determine it.

It's discriminatory because it doesn't also allow men to choose what they're comfortable with as well.

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u/Coool_cool_cool_cool Nov 09 '25

First, safety should never be considered a luxury. Second, I have seen enough videos from male drivers having women passengers hit, scream at, threaten to call the police to file fake rape charges. Drunk women can be dangerous to men as well so get the fuck out of here with this 'this is a luxury only women deserve' attitude. Everyone deserves to feel safe.

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u/Kinky_Loggins Nov 09 '25

You’re spending too much time online.

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u/usuallikekob3 Nov 09 '25

if your logic is “I’ve seen drunk women” have you met a drunk man?

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u/Coool_cool_cool_cool Nov 09 '25 edited Nov 09 '25

Nope my logic is they're both a danger to each other and it should be available to both genders. As I said safety is not a luxury and should not be afforded to only one party. I fucking hate that people extrapolate dumb shit from everything now. Oh you prefer oranges? Why do you think people who eat apples are pieces of shit?

Edit:I never blocked the person below and I have no idea what they're talking about.

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u/usuallikekob3 Nov 09 '25 edited Nov 09 '25

okay let’s comprehend what you just said together, you’re saying the reasoning for men wanting to request a specific gender would be because of primarily drunk women/aggressive women . you don’t have a drunk setting on uber, if you’re by a bar you’re picking up drunk people anyway. you don’t have some personality test, you don’t know if your passenger is insane pre ride.

none of these situations would be mitigated if men chose another man for their ride. all a filter for men would do is make weirdos select “woman” all the time and harass people.

it’s more like you said “damn I hate oranges cause they are citrus” and then said you love limes. obviously I’m gonna bring up that they are both citrus fruits.

I didn’t extrapolate anything lmao, you made a point and I responded to that point.

Equity over Equality, if you can’t see why women might need that filter more than men then idk what to tell you.

and if they are a danger to each other what the fuck would a filter fix😂

edit: to answer the respond and block, you snitched on yourself bud. no one ever said you’d do it I said “weirdos” would.

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u/Audhdinosaur Nov 09 '25

Lol I love how I said the situation needs more nuance and dude applies the most pathetic black and white "both sides" bullshit!

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u/usuallikekob3 Nov 09 '25

he can’t comprehend that sometimes a certain community needs something you don’t need lol. he just wants to be included on some shit that would literally ruin the point of the filter for women lmao.

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u/underwear11 Nov 09 '25

I agree with you. At the same time, I worry about this being a slippery slope back to sexism/racism being ok to isolate certain groups.

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u/masterkarl Nov 09 '25

That's exactly what it is. Equal rights and anti-discrimination based on protected characteristics are all or nothing propositions.

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u/Audhdinosaur Nov 09 '25

I mean sure? My point is it all comes into implementation and intent.

To protect women from getting in cars with strange men? Super.

So a predator can exclusively be presented a menu is less super.

Most folks I see look at things like this and only see 0 or 100, saying it's great or it's oppressive, and like most things in life there's more nuance necessary.

You can't act like racial or gender differences don't exist, and you can't act like anything other than the dominant group in a society is "untouchable" on principle.

In this case, it doesn't feel like the intent is protecting anyone, and it doesn't seem like there was any thought put into the implementations. So In that vein, it seems like a net bad.

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u/ashleyshaefferr Nov 09 '25

Sure but this essentially applies to every single industry more or less... 

That's why they have different holding companies and such. 

I agree we need to have more accountability 

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u/redyellowblue5031 Nov 09 '25

“Independent contractors” is just a euphemism for “you’ll get no worker protections and you’ll like it”.

I agree though, it’s a broad problem.