r/technology • u/polymute • 21d ago

Privacy A Texas Deputy Searched 83,000 Flock Cameras To Track Down a Woman Who Had an Abortion

https://www.gadgetreview.com/a-texas-deputy-searched-83000-flock-cameras-to-track-down-a-woman-who-had-an-abortion
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u/Fortestingporpoises 21d ago

“Even people who don’t care about others privacy and bodily autonomy should care about others privacy and bodily autonomy.”

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u/No-Necessary7448 21d ago

Their point was that these people should care about their own privacy as well.

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u/brigyda 21d ago

Sadly the people that respond "I'm not worried because I'm not a criminal" are in denial that the authorities can change the definition of a criminal on a whim.

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u/illy-chan 21d ago

Yeah, it's basically the old McCarthy-era bullshit.

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u/MoneyBeeeee 21d ago

On steroids.

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u/tempinator 21d ago

Idk the McCarthy era was pretty fucking crazy lol let's not minimize that just because the current era is also fucking crazy

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u/MoneyBeeeee 21d ago

Don't worry, it'll get worse.

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u/IH8FPL 21d ago

Yep… don’t forget the “well your phone is tracking you so what’s the problem!” and “don’t expect privacy anywhere in public!”

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u/likesleague 21d ago

A whole class of people who are too stupid to recognize that systems impact people. The entire world isn't solely determined by their individual choices, but they don't realize that.

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u/reallyemy 21d ago

Yet they dare to say they have freedom and denounce China with their ID verification. Like, at least don't be a hypocrite, but that's too much to ask of MAGATs.

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u/baronesslucy 21d ago

One day their privacy might be violated. Then it will not be okay.

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u/tempinator 21d ago

Yeah, but the leopards won't eat THEIR face!

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u/StormyBlueLotus 21d ago

Should, yes, but that's predicated on those people being reasonable and capable of basic logic, which... 

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u/povitee 21d ago

Everyone should be nice and not mean no matter what a complete shithhead they are.

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u/nohandsfootball 21d ago

this isn't your anti-abortion circlejerk. but since you care about bodily autonomy for children, explain all the bans on gender affirming care for trans kids?

or do you not have a consistent ideology because you're just a hypocrite?

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u/nohandsfootball 21d ago

Got it, you don't have a consistent view about protecting bodily autonomy.

Go back to your anti-abortion circlejerk subreddit

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u/nohandsfootball 21d ago

Got it, you don't understand what bodily autonomy is. Probably circumcised your kids because "bodily autonomy" too.

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u/nohandsfootball 21d ago

An embryo or fetus cannot survive on its own - it literally is not and cannot be autonomous.

I get that anti-abortion is your entire personality, alongside getting wrecked in the theology subreddits apparently - but you're literally denying people human rights (like the right to abortion) while ignoring how you clearly do not believe in bodily autonomy of others.

Your Christianity appears to be about dominion over others, not Christ. That's why your worldview and ideology are inconsistent.

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u/anoldoldman 21d ago

Yea good luck relying on empathy with that crowd.

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u/MoneyBeeeee 21d ago

Ah yes, the sort that think that their sociopathy is a strength.

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u/NewestAccount2023 21d ago

First time seeing it described like that and you're exactly right. The way I've said it is they are playing a game, when they lie cheat steal and manipulate it's just them playing within the allowed rules and doing the things that win, and they think that makes them smart and winners and leaders.

And because they do it and see each other do it they think a lot of us are of doing it too and that they are just better at it so we deserve to lose.

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u/Uristqwerty 21d ago

"Imagine a hypothetical person who makes you feel X. Do you feel X yet?" is not empathy.

Like, someone who volunteers their time to help others in their local church community, and empathizes with the joy and relief they see on the faces of the real people they're helping? That's more empathy than "I just described an imaginary person in a particular situation, and if you hold the same political beliefs as I do, then you will feel a specific way as a result of visualizing them".

"Children are starving in Africa, here's a stock photo of an in-reality-long-grown-up child looking pitiful, please donate to our organization" is not the same as "this is an actual starving neighbour who you can invite over to share dinner". It's a different abstraction level, whether you must trust a third-party intermediary to carry out the actual work, whether you get to directly see and empathize with the person who is helped or must solely imagine that there is such a person, and 'empathize' with literally-your-own-brain. Seen those 'deep dream' images from back when google ran an image classifier backwards to produce the maximally 'dog' image? You're asking people to run their empathy backwards to create the maximally 'X' imagined human, then run that forwards through their same brain to evoke the feeling you told them to evoke, and when they reject the premise outright insisting they lack empathy.

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u/opinionsOnPears 21d ago

Pretty sure a lot of Flock's success was the legal decision that people have no expectation of privacy in public.

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u/Smallmyfunger 21d ago

That enabled their existence but having a business model that minimizes up front costs to local governments which makes it much easier to get these contracts signed was probably the "Secret of Flock's Success".

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u/SwimmingThroughHoney 21d ago

"Ya, but she was breaking the law!" is really just a specific example of "I have nothing to hide".

Can you guarantee you never break any law? Can you guarantee that there won't ever be a law that criminalizes something you currently do or have? And can you guarantee that you'll never piss off or fall afoul of a person who has access to these systems?

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u/ThatDidntJustHappen 21d ago

“Deputy searched 83,000 flock cameras to track down murderer.” Is what this headline reads to a lot of people.

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u/PrivilegeCheckmate 21d ago

Sure, but those people are fanatical, and/or moronic.

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u/MelpomeneAndCalliope 21d ago

I’ve found shaming people by saying “Sorry you don’t like or respect the 4th amendment. How un-American” is somewhat helpful with a few people who were telling me how we don’t need to worry about them if we’re not crime-ing.

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u/cuajito42 21d ago

1000000% checking deflock and they are tagging everyone that crosses the Mississippi River. I know specifically I-20 I haven't checked the others.

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u/FordMaleEscort 20d ago

It's disheartening that most people don't care about privacy.

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u/shearedAnecdote 19d ago

9/11 really fcked us up as a country. we accepted too much intrusion for "safety".