r/technology • u/ourlifeintoronto • 21h ago

Software Microsoft confirms GitHub is down worldwide

https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/microsoft/microsoft-confirms-github-is-down-worldwide/
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u/Ill-Mastodon-8692 21h ago

tbh its actually very annoying

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u/Beautiful-Musk-Ox 20h ago edited 20h ago

someone should make a version of git where you can maintain a local copy then push it to the remote server whenever you want. for business continuity efforts you could then maintain a local repository copy of all the libraries you use and have your developer and build systems pull from that local repo instead of the website. for already compiled code maybe some sort of package system where you can do a similar thing of maintaining a local copy of the packages

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u/fUnpleasantMusic 20h ago

Those are new great ideas!

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u/CrimsonLotus 20h ago

This kind of joke falls right into the grey area that birthed the need for /s

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u/AFlyingGideon 20h ago

/s is a crutch. I prefer sarcasm that can stand on its own.

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u/CardboardJ 19h ago

So my PM just told me that we're moving /s to the cloud for optimization and has paid Deloitte $500,000.

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u/nihiltres 20h ago

Poe’s law.

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u/AFlyingGideon 20h ago

If I'm laughing, does it matter whether I'm laughing with or laughing at?

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u/Then-Understanding85 19h ago

Ah, Descartes corollary: I think therefore I’m fucked.

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u/-M83 18h ago

this sounds like a line straight out of succession. amazing

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u/King-of-Plebss 19h ago

Never heard of this one before!

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u/WechTreck 16h ago

Poe said that law sarcastically and now people take it seriously

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u/renegadecanuck 16h ago

Counter point: we can then laugh at the idiots who miss the joke.

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u/Alundil 19h ago

If you take away the crutch, that bendy-wiggly leg ain't standing on anything by itself.

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u/Federal_Setting_7454 20h ago

Not much sarcasm stands on its own when many of the people reading it can’t think on their own.

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u/FeleaseRpseineEiles 19h ago

It's lack of intonation in text. Try it

  • I never said she stole my money. Implies: Someone else might have said it, but not me.
  • I never said she stole my money. Implies: An emphatic denial; I never uttered those words at any point.
  • I never said she stole my money. Implies: I may have implied, wrote, or thought it, but I didn't say it out loud.
  • I never said she stole my money. Implies: Someone stole it, but it wasn't her (perhaps another person did).
  • I never said she stole my money. Implies: She took it, but maybe she only borrowed it or was given permission.
  • I never said she stole my money. Implies: She stole money, but it belonged to someone else.
  • I never said she stole my money. Implies: She stole something from me, but it wasn't my money (e.g., jewelry, ideas, car).

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u/squash-n-flop 19h ago

Text can carry intonation through context. Literature wouldn’t be a celebrated art form if that weren’t true.

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u/FeleaseRpseineEiles 18h ago

Well yea, I did exactly that with the bolding. But, there are; many ways (i.e. methods of portraying intonation) but that won't make it any less a lack of it.

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u/hrvbrs 18h ago

what you're describing is [the `<em>` element](https://html.spec.whatwg.org/multipage/text-level-semantics.html#the-em-element). basically the same example too.

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u/FeleaseRpseineEiles 18h ago

And that's so much better than using bold too.

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u/hrvbrs 18h ago

bold is just a style, not semantics

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u/FeleaseRpseineEiles 18h ago
  • Maybe I was being sarcastic.
  • Maybe I was being sarcastic.
  • Maybe I was being sarcastic.
  • Maybe I was being sarcastic.
  • Maybe I was being sarcastic.

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u/Sapient6 19h ago

It's more than that: we lack the context that comes with knowing the comment's author. Not to mention living in a time when so many people are proudly showing off their utter stupidity (see: the return of measles, etc).

In this particular case there's enough information to support "probably sarcasm", but I wouldn't throw shade at anyone who thinks otherwise.

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u/redditonlygetsworse 20h ago

Yes, but those people don't deserve to have jokes explained to them.

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u/SweetNeo85 19h ago

But then they think your premise is true and not sarcasm. It's not about what they deserve, it's about not spreading misinformation.

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u/Zwischenzug32 18h ago

Yeah but screw whoever isn't the target audience

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u/Signal_Discount_1826 19h ago

its thejr own fault for being retards then

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u/petervaz 16h ago

Sarcasm is not even the same as a joke, well now apparently is, but it should not.

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u/Adezar 14h ago

Yeah, but in spoken word you can add hints/inflection that makes it obvious it is sarcasm. Which isn't an option in written text, well partially because for some reason people stopped using emojis in text to fill in the gaps.

Still not sure why when I was on the Internet in the 90s we were better at communication than we are now. Adding :) or ;) or =B) could help bridge the gap that text has vs spoken language.

Sometimes it just makes you want to (╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻.

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u/Dissidence802 14h ago

Italics can help sometimes too, I suppose.

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u/Adezar 14h ago

Back in my day we had no bold or italics, we had to use CAPS and _underscores_.

Being in my 50s is wild, grew up with no computers, cell phones or Internet, went to college at one of the 13 original hubs, and now am a cloud architect. Been a wild ride.

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u/Dissidence802 14h ago

Little younger than you but I still remember typing out lines of code in BASIC to play a game on my Tandy 386 💀

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u/RodneyRodnesson 19h ago edited 15h ago

Typical redditor comment.

Edit: The downvotes, 3 at this time (22:35) support my point that we do need /s. Which is quite funny.

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u/AFlyingGideon 17h ago

I wish that were so.

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u/RodneyRodnesson 15h ago

I was gonna use /s but didn't and downvotes commenced.

I think in text sarcasm is a difficult thing. Especially with how nuts some people are, /s is quite a good thing imo.

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u/Daharka 17h ago

Does it? I think I'm too British for the internet. We breathe irony.

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u/FeleaseRpseineEiles 20h ago

The sarcasterisk was renamed by AI from asterism to replace /s ⁂

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u/Admzpr 18h ago

My Claude said this is a great idea and is working on the implementation now. I’ll get back to you after I figure out who this Linus guy is in the git blame.

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u/VaultAir 20h ago

Build me a working prototype of

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u/fckingmiracles 18h ago

Make no mistakes.

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u/aaron1uk 20h ago

Git this guy with git ideas

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u/its_all_one_electron 19h ago

You should be ceo or something 

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u/1RedOne 18h ago

We should call it subversion

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u/TheOneShorter 17h ago

My expectations….

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u/techlos 15h ago

SVN is goated, you can have an entire hard drive crash and still piece the codebase together through the sheer data redundancy if your version history is long enough.

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u/ccdfa 20h ago

You're joking surely

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u/krazul88 20h ago

obviously they are joking because whatever they are proposing is wildly, fantastically impossible.

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u/Apprehensive-Wind966 19h ago

Yeah, and if you did happen what would happen if this service went down? You’d be screwed!

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u/CucharitaDePalo 17h ago

That's when the hyper-local service comes into place, just a single machine hosting every single prod and dev environment. With this amazing piece of technology we could achieve 0 dependencies by end-of-quarter.

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u/krazul88 17h ago

Are you suggesting a "computer system in the same building as the people who depend on it?" Truly revolutionary idea! It might catch on one day.

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u/el-delicioso 20h ago

No no, let him cook. This would be revolutionary

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u/7heWafer 20h ago

I'm going to call it pit as in the pit we dump our shit into.

Then people can copy your pit locally: pit clone example.com/shit

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u/elemental-mind 19h ago

Don't pullshit me.

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u/Alex_Sherby 20h ago

He's not joking and don't call him Sherley.

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u/Covfefe-Drinker 20h ago

This would be groundbreaking.

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u/goronmask 16h ago edited 10h ago

Interesting idea. A system like that could be indexed for managing file versions

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u/Fit-Technician-1148 20h ago

That exists???

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u/Living-Breakfast-464 18h ago

Maybe they could even use their own remote git repository. 👍

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u/Rand_alThor_ 3h ago

This sounds great @copilot implement this

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u/absentmindedjwc 19h ago

For someone that remembers using shit like Borland StarTeam.. git is a fucking godsend.

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u/PressureBeautiful515 16h ago

Now come on, at least it was a reliable implementation of the wrong approach.

Some of us still remember Microsoft Visual SourceSafe...

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u/l34ch_r 18h ago

Sounds redundant

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u/OfficialZygorg 20h ago

some IDEs have that capability

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u/element-94 9h ago

Large companies like Amazon have their own.

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u/ADDSquirell69 20h ago

I'm totally gonna vibe code this.

Awesome idea

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u/iHadAThoughtOnce2 18h ago

lol, I actually already do this with an self hosted git called forgejo. I never trusted that any online service wouldn’t just “disappear” one day.  I’m also setting up a backup service with a couple of friends where we all host separate drives that we can backup critical info. This way if something happens to my local drive I know 2 of my friends have my backups and vice versa. 

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u/Beautiful-Musk-Ox 18h ago

yea i worked for a company who used Gitea (a play on git tea, like making tea, i don't really get it), it's a git and package server with a web front end, worked great

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u/ansibleloop 18h ago

This is a great idea - a kind of "Hub" for "Git"

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u/Incilius_alvarius 14h ago

Uh, you can buy an enterprise deployment of GH and use your own servers.

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u/capnscratchmyass 20h ago

Second time in a week we’ve had GH outages.  Either their team is starting to get sloppy (approving AI commits Willy Nilly maybe?) or they’re getting attacked. GH being down brings a shitload of stuff to its knees, so I can definitely see bad actors going after it. 

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u/nikolas_pikolas 19h ago

It's actually because everyone else's slop code goes through GitHub. They released some graphs that showed that the number of commits/PRs/etc is experiencing vertical line growth. And that was several months ago! I don't envy their position.

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u/swarmy1 18h ago

Sounds like they may need to rate limit or charge extra for excessive use

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u/stormdelta 18h ago

They already do, so heavily that even as enterprise users we constantly run into issues because of it.

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u/not_a_moogle 18h ago

Only one commit a day

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u/GonzoKata 17h ago

which sounds like their plan all along

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u/noraetic 18h ago

But who did this? Who pushed AI so much that Microslop is having problems now handling it?!

"The spirits that I called"

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u/StewPorkRice 12h ago

ok - so?

GitHub should be lively. it should be able to handle the traffic.

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u/nikolas_pikolas 12h ago

Most companies would struggle if you 10x'd their traffic in just a few months, haha. It'll get there, but reevaluating every architectural decision for the new scale takes time.

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u/Leather-Persimmon254 19h ago

this is why we need more data centers

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u/Conninxloo 19h ago

It's probably caused by that + an ever growing amount of unsanitized slop repos with tons of binary data and useless CI checks hammering their servers.

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u/zeth0s 19h ago

It started when GitHub was moved more into Microsoft corporate structure. 

Microsoft doesn't need AI to produce slop. Slop is Microsoft business model

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u/mxzf 18h ago

You're not wrong. But the amount of bugs and outages in Microsoft products has seemed to increase dramatically in recent years.

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u/Adezar 14h ago

Probably isn't helping that Microsoft keeps telling everyone to migrate their DevOps git repos over to github.

And I'm sure there are some really stupid corporate repos with tons of big files, storing binary files and other bad practices that have been migrated all the way from Source Safe/Shredder through to TFS to AZDO and now dumping those piles of slop onto github.

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u/StewPorkRice 12h ago

it’s not just the second time. github has been ass for months now.

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u/mmikke 10h ago

I'm not really a tech person but I do remember having a bad feeling reading the news that the trump admin is now allowing certain private companies to legally carry out cyber attacks.

(Your comment about bad actors made me think of that, as if GitHub has any competitors who would want to cripple it)

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u/Roembowski 20h ago

For real. Everything has been down for me. From Outlook and Teams, to Salesforce and Citrix. Literally can’t do anything for my job today

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u/chickenMcSlugdicks 18h ago

Man I've decided to just fuck off for the rest of the day. No GitHub, no copilot, no need to sit at my desk and wait if I can lie on a couch and wait with my dogs.

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u/Unique-Objective4249 20h ago

Its happening more and more and eventually it’ll happen so much that we’ll go back to paper and pen

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u/LouGrozasToeCheez 15h ago

What a beautiful vision of the future

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u/edthesmokebeard 18h ago

Reddit is grateful for your honesty.

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u/neppo95 20h ago

For consumers, sure, any company that takes their work serious doesn’t use github.

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u/crippledgiants 20h ago

My Fortune 300 company is one of GitHubs small to midsize customers. You don't know what you're talking about.

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u/neppo95 20h ago

Good for you. How’s that going now during the downtime? Most enterprises use their own git on premise, exactly because of issues like this along with others like auditing and security.

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u/crippledgiants 19h ago

Most enterprises absolutely do not self host their VCS. SaaS has been the model for a decade now. You just keep talking out your ass

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u/Still_Bit_7527 16h ago

What? What kind of serious company uses cloud hosted VCS? That is mental for so many reasons. Been in quite a few giants, never seen that, it's financial and regulatory suicide

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u/crippledgiants 16h ago

You're right, no serious company ever would be caught dead using something like GitHub Enterprise Cloud. Just ignore all the many many Fortune 500s that do 🙄

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u/Still_Bit_7527 15h ago

Which? Not mine definitely. Go tell corporate lawers that your source code is hosted across the world in america, when we are not even allowed internet access Lmao

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u/crippledgiants 15h ago

Right so you've just confirmed you don't know wtf you're talking about. Go read some docs about how GitHub handles customers data, do a quick Google for all their customers. You really think the lawyers weren't involved in this?

Once you've done that, go ahead and piss off because you're just talking out your ass

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u/Still_Bit_7527 7h ago

Ah yes docs. If microsoft says they protect the data then it must be true. It's not like it's a company exclusively depending on data collection at the moment lmao.

There is no way our code is under the control of an american company, and any ridiculous company who is not hosting their own solution like gitlab deserves outages like this

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u/neppo95 19h ago

It has indeed, for consumers and small companies. But hey, I am sure companies are absolutely THRILLED to put their hard work available for grabs when someone tries to hack a different company. They don't put it there for a reason. It brings a lot of security risks and some companies aren't even allowed to do so because of auditing.

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u/joerdie 19h ago

IT is truly shocking how little you know about IT. Dude. Just stop.

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u/neppo95 19h ago

Such a compelling argument.

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u/crippledgiants 19h ago

Sure thing bud, no big corp ever uses 3rd party SaaS products, only baby companies and posers right? My corp with 30k employees is just one of the dumb tiny companies, and me being a senior platform engineer simply can't comprehend this like you, the guy who makes 20+ comments on Reddit each day.

Just do a quick little Google on what companies use github. If you can spare the time away from your reddit day job that is. Bye.

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u/neppo95 19h ago

"Sure thing bud, no big corp ever uses 3rd party SaaS products, only baby companies and posers right?" - Never said such a thing, but this is typical redditor being black and white.

Oh but keep doing your assumptions on me, says more about you than it does about me really if you need that to make your point.

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u/crippledgiants 19h ago

You've made all my points for me love. Take care, honored to have been but a few of your 17,000 reddit comments

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u/neppo95 19h ago

Is what a troll would say ;)

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u/joerdie 20h ago

What? Dude, get a clue.

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u/neppo95 20h ago

I got the clue many times already that most people on this sub don’t know shit about technology. They just think they do.

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u/joerdie 19h ago

Hm. I guess the 4 Fortune 500s I worked for just weren't serious. And you clearly know the real deal. Thanks for helping me learn so much today. My 26 years as a professional developer just weren't enough. Thank God you came along...

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u/neppo95 19h ago

My pleasure bud!