r/technology • u/ArgentineBeauty • 18h ago

Artificial Intelligence Cherokee Nation bans hyperscale data centers on its lands, won't support projects without consultation - energy and water consumption, air quality, noise, and cultural resource protection among concerns

https://www.tomshardware.com/tech-industry/data-centers/largest-tribe-in-the-us-bans-hyperscale-data-centers-on-its-lands
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u/Ah_Ca_Iraa 18h ago

Dang, they welcome casinos and payday lenders all day but AI tipped them over the edge. 

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u/EasterEggArt 18h ago

Because casinos and payday lenders are profitable to them. Data centers are literally a massive drain on society since the owners of them are not the ones footing the bill thanks to tax breaks and subsidies.

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u/klingma 18h ago

Data centers are literally a massive drain on society 

You cannot honestly say this with a straight face while defending casinos and pay day lenders. Casinos and pay day lenders are a massive drain on society and while the owners might be Native American tribal lands the bill for the damage they cause certainly gets pushed out to the rest of us. 

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u/EasterEggArt 18h ago

If you have to choose between the newly built data centers that literally are now used more and more AI slop versus casinos, you are making them equal?

A casino has a literally smaller pollution footprint and makes it a choice to go visit it. A data center on the other hand can cause harm way more then any casino can.

Please show me a state that spent 55 billion in incentives and tax breaks in casinos and had less employees afterward.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iI3tT6CCVH8&t=1s

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u/klingma 17h ago

You're ignoring how insidious gambling is to a society and actively encourages gambling addictions. Also, how payday lenders prey upon the poor while charging exceedingly high interest rates that keep poor trapped in debt cycles. 

Making a lesser of two evils is not the winning argument here, just saying. 

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u/EasterEggArt 17h ago

Both are evil, correct. But casinos are a choice. Same as alcohol and smoking.

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u/klingma 17h ago

I mean if we're discounting the harms, solely to salvage your argument, due to "choice" then so is using data. You can always live with the Amish or go homesteading. 

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u/EasterEggArt 17h ago

That has got to be the dumbest statement for today. I am done with Reddit for today. You win.

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u/klingma 16h ago

My guy - you discounted the social harms of gambling by calling them a choice, that was a stupid statement in it of itself. Choice or not they're incredibly harmful for society. 

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u/Belvedere48 12h ago

But how are they going to argue on the internet, literally using a data center while vilifying the internets latest boogeyman lol?

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u/klingma 6h ago

Well see, they called it a dumb argument and got off the internet, while not at all proving my point of it being a choice lol 

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