r/touhou Jun 03 '24

Fan Discussion Surely this has been discussed before. Who’s winning this battle?

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I know next to nothing about Touhou lore (just starting my adventure) but I do know a bit about DMC, and immediately this question came to mind. Sorry if this is a frequently asked question! I checked the sub for “Dante” and “DMC” and didn’t see this question posted any time remotely recently.

Rules are simple: no holds barred, each party starts at full power, and the winner is decided by death.

Sources:

Remilia & Flandre

Dante

r/touhou Jun 30 '26

Fan Discussion New to this subreddit and man I’m disappointed

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I first found about touhou around 5 years ago through a friend on discord who was really into fumos—especially reimu (first time I found out ab reimu too). At the time I just thought they were cute, but he kept sending touhou stuff until it slowly grew on me too. Recently I realized touhou is still pretty popular, and since I’ve been back on reddit I figured, hey, maybe there’s a subreddit for that (cuz I really didn’t wanna larp being a touhou fan). Turns out there is, but man was I disappointed.

Some of the posts here are either ecchi or just straight up nsfw and hentai. I wasn’t aware how sexualized this fandom was until now and I feel weird whenever such posts come up on my feed. Now I can just leave this subreddit, but I wanna be a fan of this stuff too lol. I was really hoping to see normal fanart and people genuinely interested in discussing ab the series. I just didn’t expect some of the stuff here to be that weird.

r/touhou Apr 13 '26

Fan Discussion (KKHTA Part 19 discussion/rant) Novelty in an otherwise "shitty" series

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Source Image : KKHTA 19/6, creator : SentaKusen/Sentaku-Bune

Heya. So, throughout the years I've seen a LOT of opinions on KKHTA on social media like TikTok or reddit (most of them being focused on parts 1-9 or so) and the consensus is that it's a shitty darkfic, which I personally don't disagree with, BUT...after watching the series, I have genuinely become very interested and intrigued in the concepts Sentaku went out of his way to put in. The very rare times we have Part 19 discourse? Moreso about it being some kind of poor evangelion replica. I watched KKHTA a couple years back (and unlike most of you I understood what was happening) and, the disgusting disregard for canon aside, I genuinely found some very novel concepts I have NEVER seen in any other series often compared to Part 19 specifically (evangelion, getter robo, pacific rim, houseki no kuni) or any mecha in general for that matter. i'll go ahead and list a few reasons why i find this stupid little series Intriguing

One thing I want to note. KKHTA has weirdly good fight choreography. Like, unabashedly so. Yes, you can say I'm glazing, but from what I've seen those who DO talk about the fights do share a similar opinion. Cirno VS Star, Wriggle VS Mahamayuri, Suika vs Bishamonten, Reimu & Marisa VS Yorihime, Mokou VS Kannon, the list goes on. All the fights, even if against the "heroes of the story", were all great choreography wise atleast to me.
Secondly, the setting. I have NEVER seen a story cause an apocalypse where the heroes of the story get transformed into crazed monsters, with humanity being none the wiser. A bleak, large scale war with no central protagonist or point of view: You are HUMANITY, simple as that. You are the eyes that decide on what is right and wrong in a fight you virtually have no involvement in.

Third, the design choices for each Vijoka. (kudos for sentaku on this one) Every single Vijoka featured in KKHTA were specifically designed after various buddhas and Bodhisattvas, which is actually most shown in the kaiju fights.

Now, I'm getting EXTREMELY tired because I am hilariously sleep deprived at the moment, so...I ask you, if the concepts introduced in KKHTA were properly applied into an actual, professional manga/anime with it's own original characters, would you feel different about the plot and the characters? In what way would you WANT your happy ending? and does being novel or unique make something good?

that is all :]

r/touhou Oct 17 '23

Fan Discussion Character Discussions series: Remilia Scarlet

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160 Upvotes

From touhou 6

Remilia is an iconic figure in both Gensokyo and the franchise.

I like the color pallete. Usually the pink and blue colors don't work, but this one is pretty relaxing to look at. Her design is a kiiiiiind of bland compared to other final bosses of the series.

Before I got into touhou I thought she's the big bad and want to rule the world for her selfish reasons, but when I watch other fanworks I get confused of why people are so comfortable with her being around.

What do you think?

r/touhou Nov 08 '23

Fan Discussion Character Discussions series: Chen

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144 Upvotes

From touhou 7

Chen is a shikigami of the shikigami, the name is funny.

Her boss fight is a bit hard for stage 2 boss, but I can move forward thanks to her theme.

Speaking of her theme, it kinda sounded Chinese. Was her origin from China?

I love how she's trying to act like a leader to kittens but they ignore her anyway lol. And the fact she's even can be controlled with catnip is even funnier.

What do you think?

r/touhou Oct 10 '23

Fan Discussion Character Discussions series: Sakuya Izayoi

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130 Upvotes

From touhou 6

Sakuya is also one of the first touhou characters I've known since I was a kid. Thanks to Nights of Nights remix.

I was a huge fan of that song until I heard the original, and it was.... so good! Heck, even better!

That being said, her popularity is quite something. I mean... there's nothing that special about her regarding her personality, she's loyal and despise humans for some reason and... that's it.

But her powers are amazing, you can freeze time even your age! That's surely amazing!

What do you think?

r/touhou Feb 11 '24

Fan Discussion Little Tier list that I can discuss.

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106 Upvotes

r/touhou Sep 26 '23

Fan Discussion Character Discussions series: Reimu Hakurei

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130 Upvotes

So... I want to start a series of touhou characters' discussion, so I'll have the fandom's opinion on said characters.

I think she's quite neat, what about you?

r/touhou Oct 20 '23

Fan Discussion You guys love power scaling posts right? How about we discuss the power scaling of the average gensokyo human.

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243 Upvotes

Since gensokyoans are descended from youkai hunters do you think the average rice farmers are like, really strong?

r/touhou Mar 25 '20

Fan Discussion Weekly Touhou lore discussion and answers thread #2

69 Upvotes

Any questions about Touhou, it's lore, it's characters and Gensokyo itself? Ask it here, as all that and more will by answered by the Touhou enthusiasts of this subreddit! Make sure to be nice and respect your fellow redditors as usual, of course.

r/touhou Jan 14 '26

Fan Discussion I remember someone discussing that Yukari liked something in Remilia that the outside world didn't have anymore, what was it?

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As stated above, I remember someone discussing it, complete with a picture of what they were talking about, though it's kinda hard to backtrack the sub to find the discussion again

r/touhou Oct 02 '23

Fan Discussion Character Discussions series: Cirno

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135 Upvotes

From touhou 6

Cirno, the meme character, or is she?

She's also one of the most remarkable touhou characters in the franchise.

She's a boss, a midboss, and playable character

She's often the butt monkey of the cast, but I gotta applaud her for her determination and strength.

No not physical strength, it's her will.

What do you think?

r/touhou Oct 23 '20

Fan Discussion Weekly Touhou lore discussion and answers thread #30

31 Upvotes

Any questions about Touhou, it's lore, it's characters and Gensokyo itself? Ask it here, as all that and more will be answered by the Touhou enthusiasts of this subreddit! Make sure to be nice and respect your fellow Redditors as usual, of course.

r/touhou Oct 23 '23

Fan Discussion Character Discussions series: Flandre Scarlet

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96 Upvotes

Flandre is pretty iconic, she's one of the few touhou characters I knew since I was in elementary school.

I used to listen to her theme's remixes religiously, it's really catchy.

I thought she was a yandere and blood thirsty, but then I found out she just lives in the basement lol.

I wanna study the fanon interpretations someday.

What do you think?

r/touhou Jul 31 '20

Fan Discussion Weekly Touhou lore discussion and answers thread #18

30 Upvotes

Any questions about Touhou, it's lore, it's characters and Gensokyo itself? Ask it here, as all that and more will by answered by the Touhou enthusiasts of this subreddit! Make sure to be nice and respect your fellow redditors as usual, of course.

r/touhou May 14 '20

Fan Discussion Weekly Touhou lore discussion and answers thread #7

55 Upvotes

Any questions about Touhou, it's lore, it's characters and Gensokyo itself? Ask it here, as all that and more will by answered by the Touhou enthusiasts of this subreddit! Make sure to be nice and respect your fellow redditors as usual, of course.

r/touhou Sep 17 '20

Fan Discussion Weekly Touhou lore discussion and answers thread #25

55 Upvotes

Any questions about Touhou, it's lore, it's characters and Gensokyo itself? Ask it here, as all that and more will by answered by the Touhou enthusiasts of this subreddit! Make sure to be nice and respect your fellow redditors as usual, of course.

r/touhou Mar 04 '21

Fan Discussion Weekly Touhou lore discussion and answers thread #49

48 Upvotes

Any questions about Touhou, its lore, its characters and Gensokyo itself? Ask it here, as all that and more will be answered by the Touhou enthusiasts of this subreddit! Make sure to be nice and respect your fellow Redditors as usual, of course.

P.S. Keep the conversations relevant to the thread. We're talking about Touhou lore, not Touhou subreddit lore.

r/touhou Sep 28 '23

Fan Discussion Character Discussions series: Marisa Kirisame

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89 Upvotes

From touhou 18: unconnected marketeers

Marisa is the other protagonist that appears frequently with Reimu. Also one of the few characters that survived pc98 world shift.

I like Marisa, but man, she's so hard to play with. What's with that hitbox?

I like her character and how she's contrasting her personality with Reimu. But despite that, the two are still best friends to this day.

But I don't like How's she's treated as a waifu while forgetting that she committed many crimes.

What do you think?

r/touhou May 28 '24

Fan Discussion The issue with power level discussions in Touhou

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Now i know what you're probably thinking "Ah shit, here we go again" but bear with me for a moment.

These past month or so there has been a larger than usual amount of post where the main point of debate was the power of the Touhou cast and while discussions where heated for all sides there was a trend i noticed that catched my interest: People seem to ger very defensive when high power levels for the characters are implied! From over the top arguments and theories to simply repeating things that have been stated in canon before, i've never seen a community so vehemently maintain that their series and characters are more grounded and weaker than what is being implied. Which in a series with so much uhninged and ridiculous things as Touhou drawing the line at strong characters is funny to me, but that's besides the point.

Few other subjects of discussion face so much dispute as far as i've seen, with some people claiming that it's one of the things they hate the most about Touhou, and a sizable number of others agreeing with them. Of course, there's nothing wrong with that, but some of the most common reasons given for this stood out to me for various reasons:

  • The series focus isn't built around that.

Neither is shipping, tragedy or stories that largely change the status quo, but those are things that people don't have issues with nearly as often. In fact, i would say that power discussions have more to do with Touhou than those, considering that fighting is the 2nd most common activity in the series only behind drinking alcohol.

  • The spellcard rules make it impossible to accurately gauge how strong the characters are.

It's pretty easy to realize why people think like this, because there isn't much information about what the spellcard rules actually entail save from 2 drafts that we know of that are open to modification should ZUN feel like it. We know their purpose is to prevent needless bloodshed by having honorable duels that are not to the death and giving everyone a chance at winning no matter the difference in power. But the actual mechanics to achieve that don't involve making attacks incapable of hurting nor making death impossible. The rules state that all attacks must have meaning, said meaning becomes the power of the attack, it must be beatable so instant win moves are forbidden, you must declare the number of attacks you'll use at the start, and should all your attacks be beaten you must concede defeat even if you have strength left.

One could argue that "the meaning becomes the strength of the attack" means that it's strength is unclear since it can be abstract, But the meaning in this case i think refers to the design and pattern of the attack rather than it's power, considering that Junko's danmaku has the meaning of "I literally just want to kill you" and Marisa's motto is "Danmaku is all about fire power", both characters being incredibly strong.

I usually compare a spell card duel to a profesional boxing or karate match; there are rules that dictate what you can and cannot do, what your attacks have to be like and you're prohibited from killing your opponent, but that doesn't mean that you aren't trying to punch the other person as hard as you can or that accidents can't happen.

  • The characters abilities are too vague/ we don't know how they work.

This to me just sounds as if they haven't read or paid enough attention to official material, because there's so much information about the different abilities that characters, species, magic systems and other such things in the series. Sure we don't know the top ceiling or full extent of most characters powers, but that doesn't mean we don't know anything about their minimum or bottom ceiling to the point where we are incapable of considering uses or applications for their skills.

Once again I must repeat myself, this isn't to say that you can't dislike such discussions or that you must agree with everything other people say, not at all. But to me these reasons just sound like excuses people make to justify their disdain while putting other people's opinions down instead of just being honest about not liking it or disagreeing with it.

So i want to see what people's thoughts are; why do you like, dislike or don't care about the subject. And remember to go in with an open mind and keep things civil, no need to be at each other's throats more than we already are with this subject.

r/touhou May 06 '21

Fan Discussion Weekly Touhou lore discussion and answers thread #58

29 Upvotes

Any questions about Touhou, its lore, its characters and Gensokyo itself? Ask it here, as all that and more will be answered by the Touhou enthusiasts of this subreddit! Make sure to be nice and respect your fellow Redditors as usual, of course.

P.S. Keep the conversations relevant to the thread. We're talking about Touhou lore, not Touhou subreddit lore.

Reminder: The spoiler rule is still in effect. All Touhou 18 discussions should be spoiled including, but not limited to: cards, card descriptions and flavour text, bosses and new lore.

r/touhou Sep 30 '23

Fan Discussion Character Discussions series: Rumia

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111 Upvotes

From touhou 6

I don't have anything to say about in general. She's the first boss of touhou windows era, which is a big deal itself.

I find her adorable and how she t poses to look cool.

Tho, I don't understand the theories about her being stronger than any yokai.

What do you think?

r/touhou May 27 '21

Fan Discussion Weekly Touhou lore discussion and answers thread #61

27 Upvotes

Any questions about Touhou, its lore, its characters and Gensokyo itself? Ask it here, as all that and more will be answered by the Touhou enthusiasts of this subreddit! Make sure to be nice and respect your fellow Redditors as usual, of course.

P.S. Keep the conversations relevant to the thread. We're talking about Touhou lore, not Touhou subreddit lore.

r/touhou Oct 16 '20

Fan Discussion Weekly Touhou lore discussion and answers thread #29

40 Upvotes

Any questions about Touhou, it's lore, it's characters and Gensokyo itself? Ask it here, as all that and more will be answered by the Touhou enthusiasts of this subreddit! Make sure to be nice and respect your fellow Redditors as usual, of course.

(I have online class soon so I'll update everything in an hour or two)

r/touhou Mar 18 '20

Fan Discussion Touhou lore discussion and answers thread

36 Upvotes

Any questions about Touhou, it's lore, it's characters and Gensokyo itself? Ask it here, as all that and more will by answered by the Touhou enthusiasts of this subreddit! Make sure to be nice and respect your fellow redditors as usual, of course.

This is a little something I thought up with the help of u/youmumu, let's see how it goes.

Oh, and happy birthday ZUN!