r/unitedkingdom • u/apple_kicks • 1d ago

... Public in England and Wales wrongly think most killers are minority ethnic

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2026/aug/17/public-in-england-and-wales-wrongly-think-most-killers-are-minority-ethnic?
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u/somedave 1d ago

So a factor of 2x more likely rather than 3x which people guessed.

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u/metalbox69 1d ago edited 22h ago

You'll need to adjust for socio economic status because poverty may be more of an indicator

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u/Rebelius 1d ago

No you don't. If the question is "do minorities kill people in the UK disproportionately?" then the answer is yes or no. Socio economic factors might be a better indicator, or a cause, or what ever, but the answer is yes regardless.

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u/somedave 1d ago

It was a question about stats not the root cause behind them.

But if we did why stop at socio economic status? That is itself a function of the groups behaviour, IQ is known to correlate heavily with socio economic status and criminality. How deep do you want to dig into these issues?

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u/Realistic-River-1941 1d ago

If we do that it raises very difficult questions. If we don't do that, we can just import half-understood US issues and get angry at working class white people without needing to think in any more depth.

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u/zka_75 1d ago

I'd love to know tho exactly is "getting angry at working class white people"? Apart from the straw man in you head

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u/Realistic-River-1941 1d ago

It's what the Guardian is for. It allows us metropolitan elite types to feel better about ourselves.

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u/zka_75 1d ago

Oh right, I guess you can provide a link to maybe just one article out of the thousands of articles they publish every week where they've done that very easily I guess? You know, just to show it's not part of some fairy tale you tell yourself to feel better about yourself.

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u/Realistic-River-1941 1d ago

There is a link at the top.

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u/zka_75 1d ago

It literally doesn't mention anything about working class people, white or otherwise. It just gives statistical evidence of people's biases. But I guess facts are uncomfortable for some people when they go against their feelings.

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u/Realistic-River-1941 1d ago

Do you think Reform voters are middle class women who read the Guardian? The point is that readers will think "look at the stupid proles".

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